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Old 07-18-2022, 07:19 AM
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The article you posted doesn't state that Abbott lied, but that he may have been lied to.

And didn't Congress just pass bi-partisan legislation on gun control, which undercuts your comment above about "don't want to do anything about gun control?
Perhaps you're forgetting about the Repubs in Congress that fought tooth and nail against passing said bi-partisan legislation?
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Old 07-18-2022, 08:38 AM
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After a Texas school shooting, conservatives blamed ‘woke’ programs once approved by Republicans
In 2018, GOP politicians promoted social and emotional education as a tool to stop mass shootings. Now some conservative activists are arguing those programs are not a solution to school violence, but a cause.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ning-rcna35540

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Old 07-18-2022, 10:50 AM
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The article you posted doesn't state that Abbott lied, but that he may have been lied to.

And didn't Congress just pass bi-partisan legislation on gun control, which undercuts your comment above about "don't want to do anything about gun control?
The article makes it abundantly clear that what Abbott said was untrue, now profoundly so in light of recent revelations. He willingly passed on a contrived, self-serving version of events without attempting to confirm its veracity. Though it's a lie in my book, it's basic conservative communications in yours, it seems. As the saying goes, YMMV.

PS - Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott did not attend a single funeral of any of the 19 children, or two schoolteachers, killed in Uvalde.
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Old 07-18-2022, 10:58 AM
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After a Texas school shooting, conservatives blamed ‘woke’ programs once approved by Republicans
In 2018, GOP politicians promoted social and emotional education as a tool to stop mass shootings. Now some conservative activists are arguing those programs are not a solution to school violence, but a cause.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ning-rcna35540

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But Repub voters do have short memories. Very short.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:05 PM
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The article makes it abundantly clear that what Abbott said was untrue, now profoundly so in light of recent revelations. He willingly passed on a contrived, self-serving version of events without attempting to confirm its veracity. Though it's a lie in my book, it's basic conservative communications in yours, it seems. As the saying goes, YMMV.

PS - Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott did not attend a single funeral of any of the 19 children, or two schoolteachers, killed in Uvalde.
Interesting what you call a lie. The Governor initially provided information that was given to him, presumably, by law enforcement. Turns out later that the info provided to the Guv was false.

Yes. it's a not lie in my book to make a public statement, and then later publically correct/retract it when new info comes to light. Calling it a lie is something a leftist-pragmatist of Dem would do...

...but as you keep saying you're none of the above.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:09 PM
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Interesting what you call a lie. The Governor initially provided information that was given to him, presumably, by law enforcement. Turns out later that the info provided to the Guv was false.

Yes. it's a not lie in my book to make a public statement, and then later publically correct/retract it when new info comes to light. Calling it a lie is something a leftist-pragmatist of Dem would do...

...but as you keep saying you're none of the above.
Agreed, but only if you're willing to ascribe honesty and good faith to Gov. Abbott. He has not earned such consideration, particularly after his multitude of lies about the reasons for the blackout in the Texas power grid (he blamed The Green New Deal). He, his Lt. Gov. and Attorney General are all seasoned prevaricators.
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Old 07-18-2022, 01:15 PM
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PS - Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott did not attend a single funeral of any of the 19 children, or two schoolteachers, killed in Uvalde.
A) Why risk turning a kid's funeral into a media circus. Your crowd is desperately trying to blame any Repub for anything and everything bad that happens including Uvalde.

B) He did go to the memorial outside the school where he was heckled by some of your fellow travelers. Again, if it happened there, who says it wouldn't happen at a kid's funeral.

C) Given his mobility challenges, it's possible, even likely, that logistics played a role in his attendance at the funerals.
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A) Why risk turning a kid's funeral into a media circus. Your crowd is desperately trying to blame any Repub for anything and everything bad that happens including Uvalde.

B) He did go to the memorial outside the school where he was heckled by some of your fellow travelers. Again, if it happened there, who says it wouldn't happen at a kid's funeral.

C) Given his mobility challenges, it's possible, even likely, that logistics played a role in his attendance at the funerals.
The better explanation is that he's a chickenshit asshole.
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A) Why risk turning a kid's funeral into a media circus. Your crowd is desperately trying to blame any Repub for anything and everything bad that happens including Uvalde.

B) He did go to the memorial outside the school where he was heckled by some of your fellow travelers. Again, if it happened there, who says it wouldn't happen at a kid's funeral.

C) Given his mobility challenges, it's possible, even likely, that logistics played a role in his attendance at the funerals.
You'll excuse anything committed by your pissant hero guv in Texas, Mike. How's that confederate tripe taste, bro? You seem to slurp it up like a pro.
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Texas is about to get a lesson in the consequences of reichwing libertarian hubris.

'Texas At Imminent Risk Of Total Power Collapse, Here's Why'

"As the scorching heat in Texas drives power demand to record highs, the state's power grid is at imminent risk of total collapse. Crypto mining rigs shut down earlier this week to prevent blackouts and price hikes. And now, experts are worried the state’s electricity plants won’t be able to keep up with energy demands. To keep things running as normal, the grid operator ordered plants to run at a historic pace, Bloomberg reports.

As temperatures soar above 100 degrees, power plants have even been forced to skip regular maintenance to keep cranking out electricity. That's helped keep the power on for now. But this short-term focus is putting even more stress on a system that's already stretched to its limit. And without getting the service they need to remain safe and functional, folks are worried about a total collapse. "Things are going to break," Executive director of Texas Competitive Power Advocates Michele Richmond told the publication. "We have an aging fleet that's being run harder than it's ever been run."

Last week, fear of a power collapse caused the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) to initiate a rarely used emergency program that is triggered when supplies fall below a critical safety margin. The ERCOT, which operates the grid that serves more than 26 million customers, urged residents to cut power use during the hottest hours of the day and warned of a risk of rolling blackouts. People were asked to turn up thermostats, defer the use of high-power appliances and turn off swimming pool pumps, according to Reuters."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...42a958044616df
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