Is Trump becoming a Lefty?

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by whell

Sure I did. I suspect you did too, but apparently you didn't understand what you read, or your concept of the interaction between the states and the Federal gov't is fatally flawed. There's nothing in the concept of "state's rights" that holds state law as superior to federal law, thus your "states rights" comments is absurd on its face.

But I wonder....

If this bill becomes law, the next time there's a crime, God forbid a violent crime, committed in Cali by an illegal immigrant, and it is revealed that the crime could have been prevented if there had been cooperation between federal and state law enforcement, how will the average Californian react? Will they be comforted by the idea that their legislature and governor "stuck it to Trump and Sessions, so the end (the violent crime) justifies the means? Will you be cackling about the fact that the violent crime is secondary to the primacy of "states rights"? I doubt it.

If only they'd sent Charles Manson back to where he came from and built a wall, but no. And here we are with all the immigrants committing all the serious crime.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Sure I did. I suspect you did too, but apparently you didn't understand what you read, or your concept of the interaction between the states and the Federal gov't is fatally flawed. There's nothing in the concept of "state's rights" that holds state law as superior to federal law, thus your "states rights" comments is absurd on its face.

But I wonder....

If this bill becomes law, the next time there's a crime, God forbid a violent crime, committed in Cali by an illegal immigrant, and it is revealed that the crime could have been prevented if there had been cooperation between federal and state law enforcement, how will the average Californian react? Will they be comforted by the idea that their legislature and governor "stuck it to Trump and Sessions, so the end (the violent crime) justifies the means? Will you be cackling about the fact that the violent crime is secondary to the primacy of "states rights"? I doubt it.

As usual you ignored the point I made and went for the quip about states rights. You really are a dishonest debater when it comes right down to it, Mike. Color me unsurprised that you continue to be full of shit.

[Rajoo]

All talk and inept/incompetent is what the Trump-Sessions team is all about.

Mostly deportations have remained lower than in past years under the Obama administration. From January to June, Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported 61,370 criminals, down from 70,603 during the same period last year.

So instead of focusing their efforts to carry out their own responsibility, they would rather criticize states for something they are not doing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.849174f24886

[Pio1980]

No shit. So build a wall around Ohio?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

No shit. So build a wall around Ohio?

Well, I guess to some folks Ohio might seem like a foreign country. Maybe you're one?

[Pio1980]

Where was Tim McVeigh from? Build a wall around that state?

[barbara]

Just build that wall around Trump.....

[Delta Flight]

Originally Posted by barbara

Just build that wall around Trump.....

Save money. Send him to North Korea.

[finnbow]

I think it's possible that Democrats will get more of their agenda enacted under Trump than under Hillary in that the GOP would obstruct everything she tried to do and keep a handful of Congressional investigations going. As long as Trump can chalk up a "win," he'll sign anything into law regardless of its underlying ideology or impact upon his supporters. He's a party of one.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I think it's possible that Democrats will get more of their agenda enacted under Trump than under Hillary in that the GOP would obstruct everything she tried to do and keep a handful of Congressional investigations going. As long as Trump can chalk up a "win," he'll sign anything into law regardless of its underlying ideology or impact upon his supporters. He's a party of one.

Perhaps Chuck & Nancy should call for a bipartisan summit to be held at Mar-A-Lago.