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If the goal is to stop missile attacks on ships, I don't think bombing will do it. Missiles are concealable and portable. Troops on the ground will be needed, and not just a few. Oh by the way, same is true of Iran and straits of Hormuz, and they are fairly likely to respond to the moves against their allies in Yemen. So that's two places to invade, the second one being fairly big and fairly well-armed.
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01-15-2024, 01:49 PM
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I think the goal here is to stop or discourage those who're shooting the missles. Notice the attack we carried out was against land targets and not missiles in air.Just stopping the missiles is playing whac-a-mole.
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The Saudis bombed the Houthi for years, and no special discouragement achieved. I've got a bad feeling about this. I think Biden is panicky based on the threat to shipping as a threat to the world economy, and therefore a threat to his economic miracle, which is mostly what he has to run on.
I remember the old saw, about Republicans crashing the economy, and Democrats getting us into wars....though of course Bush the Younger managed both. Anyway, the real answer is to give the Houthi what they want, which is the right thing to do anyway. A *really* clever President would do this while bombing the Houthi at the same time, to look strong while he did it. Don't think Biden's clever that way though.
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01-16-2024, 08:24 AM
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Different goals are being sought. The US and Brittan aren't trying to take down the Houthis but just get them to stop attacking shipping. By not doing anything we come off as looking weak. Lots of factions, domestic and abroad, would like Biden to look weak at this point.
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Pakistan is coming in, and they have nuclear weapons at their disposal, along with hypersonic ship-buster missiles.
Russia is going to have to go after Turkey, to stop the Black Sea from being opened up to NATO aircraft carrier groups.
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01-18-2024, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
Pakistan is coming in, and they have nuclear weapons at their disposal, along with hypersonic ship-buster missiles.
Russia is going to have to go after Turkey, to stop the Black Sea from being opened up to NATO aircraft carrier groups.
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So you're saying Russia is going to have to go after NATO? At this time that wouldn't be wise.
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01-18-2024, 01:01 PM
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So you're saying Russia is going to have to go after NATO? At this time that wouldn't be wise.
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It would be for the survival of their way of life.
The Communist aren't going to just surrender.
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01-18-2024, 01:15 PM
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It would be for the survival of their way of life.
The Communist aren't going to just surrender.
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If Russia wants to survive, the last thing they would want is a war with NATO, which is one country against seven well armed and equipped with superior weapons and intelligence? They neither have the arms nor the money to support such an adventure and Putin is too smart for that.
But he did invade Ukraine and is still bogged down there, so perhaps not very smart indeed. Actually he miscalculated Ukrainian resistance badly and is paying the price.
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01-18-2024, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
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It would be for the survival of their way of life.
The Communist aren't going to just surrender.
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Communist???
Russia practices Crony Capitalism.
The dispute between the West and Russia is essentially between pro Russian oligarchs and pro Western oligarchs.
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01-18-2024, 03:45 PM
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It would be for the survival of their way of life.
The Communist aren't going to just surrender.
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The best thing for the survival of their way of life is to stop fucking around with other countries and take care of their own house.
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