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What Manning did (or at least what I know of it) was definitely a crime by a dumb, naive and emotionally troubled kid. The question remains as to why such a kid had the requisite clearances and access to classified data.
As for Assange, he's a self-important twit. That doesn't make him a criminal nor much different than a lot of reporters/journalists.
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What Manning did (or at least what I know of it) was definitely a crime by a dumb, naive and emotionally troubled kid. The question remains as to why such a kid had the requisite clearances and access to classified data.
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That has troubled me since I first learned of the kid's background. I was also troubled (and still am) by what was an apparent total lack of supervision in the kid's activities. He's a PFC for crying out loud. Yes, I've had E-3s working in a Top Secret environment but they were never permitted in the spaces alone nor were they unsupervised by at minimum a Petty Officer Second Class (E-5).
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As for Assange, he's a self-important twit. That doesn't make him a criminal nor much different than a lot of reporters/journalists.
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Fortunately for Assange, I don't make the laws. If I did, being a total asshole would be a capital offense. Yeah, I know reporters do it as well. They're assholes as well.
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08-20-2012, 10:10 AM
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The question remains as to why such a kid had the requisite clearances and access to classified data.
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He's not a Muslim?
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08-20-2012, 10:21 AM
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That has troubled me since I first learned of the kid's background. I was also troubled (and still am) by what was an apparent total lack of supervision in the kid's activities. He's a PFC for crying out loud. Yes, I've had E-3s working in a Top Secret environment but they were never permitted in the spaces alone nor were they unsupervised by at minimum a Petty Officer Second Class (E-5).
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In keeping with long-held traditions in military justice, they prosecute a PFC while ignoring the actions of superiors that allowed/enabled the crime.
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08-20-2012, 10:29 AM
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In keeping with long-held traditions in military justice, they prosecute a PFC while ignoring the actions of superiors that allowed/enabled the crime.
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From what I understand one or two received Art. 15 NJP. Oh boy, that'll take 'em to task.
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08-20-2012, 10:32 AM
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From what I understand one or two received Art. 15 NJP. Oh boy, that'll take 'em to task.
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... while Bradley Manning could theoretically receive the death penalty.  I rest my case. 
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... while Bradley Manning could theoretically receive the death penalty. I rest my case. |
And I totally agree with you.
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08-20-2012, 10:43 AM
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From what I understand one or two received Art. 15 NJP. Oh boy, that'll take 'em to task.
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Foe the civilians out there, an Article 15 is the least severe form of punishment under the military justice system. It's purely administrative and a non-judicial punishment (NJP), handled at the unit level by the commander.
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Foe the civilians out there, an Article 15 is the least severe form of punishment under the military justice system. It's purely administrative and a non-judicial punishment (NJP), handled at the unit level by the commander.
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Thanks, John. Didn't write for the reader that time, did I?
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Quote:
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Foe the civilians out there, an Article 15 is the least severe form of punishment under the military justice system. It's purely administrative and a non-judicial punishment (NJP), handled at the unit level by the commander.
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AKA Latrine duty...every commisioned officer needs one of those in their resume.
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