The Foundation of Christianity

watsup1000 · #1 07-12-2020, 02:53 PM

Assuming for the sake of his argument that there is a God, then from whence does the Christian religion derive?
It seems to me that the foundation is in the "original sin" committed by Adam at the behest of Eve and a snake, for without that "original sin" and thereby throwing the rest of humanity into a potentially sinful state, there would have been no need for a "Savior" to "redeem" humanity, and thus no Jesus Christ dying on the cross and no Christian religion.

To make sure, I did some Google research and this is what I found:
Death came into the world through Adam's sin (Romans 5:12-15).
Romans 5:19: For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
Original sin, also called ancestral sin, is a Christian belief in a state of sin in which humanity has existed since the fall of man, stemming from Adam and Eve's rebellion in Eden, namely the sin of disobedience in consuming the forbidden fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

There's only one problem with that scenario: there was no Adam; no Garden of Eden; no Eve; no apple; no snake; etc etc etc. It is all a myth. The Homo genus evolved over literally millennia and basically came into its own in just the last half-million years or so, with the last 130,000 years or so being the most important. As a result, the Christian religion as presently practiced is based in the myth of Adam and "original sin"/
Whatever. It's a free country and people can believe whatever they want.

For that matter, the entire Book of Genesis should be properly labelled the Book of Myths. No creation in "seven days"; no worldwide flood; no ark saving all the animals of the realm; no man living inside a large fish; etc etc etc.

Mark B · #2 07-12-2020, 04:17 PM

The origin of the stories that eventually made their way into the old testament go back at least to the Sumerians, and probably come from stories that predate written history.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news...ian-texts-0065

Pio1980 · #3 07-12-2020, 09:03 PM

So, Adam and Eve were the first Mythter and Mythess?
Low hanging fruit (maybe an apple).

JJIII · #4 07-13-2020, 07:11 AM

Groan.

What a way to start the day!

donquixote99 · #5 07-13-2020, 07:29 AM

Go play some music, JJ. Here's something: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AY3VAWZJ1T8

jmcslob · #6 07-13-2020, 07:51 AM

So Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ.
No other chapters in the "Bible" should matter to the Christians... But... sigh.. they do.
The other chapters for the most part are chapters from other books...or are very poorly plagiarized.

What's worse is how they twist their stories to get different narratives than the what is plainly obvious.

If you look at the story that Christians use to get out of paying for contraceptive medications you'll quickly realize that it's not about using contraceptives... It's about not being a hypocrite.. And hopefully that it's not alright to kill your son's and use the woman they were to marry as a prostitute.
But whatever right.

JJIII · #7 07-13-2020, 09:17 AM

Thanks, DQ. I enjoyed that.

donquixote99 · #8 07-13-2020, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JJIII

Thanks, DQ. I enjoyed that.

Cool, you are welcone!

BigElCat · #9 07-13-2020, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcslob

So Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ.
No other chapters in the "Bible" should matter to the Christians... But... sigh.. they do.
The other chapters for the most part are chapters from other books...or are very poorly plagiarized.

What's worse is how they twist their stories to get different narratives than the what is plainly obvious.

If you look at the story that Christians use to get out of paying for contraceptive medications you'll quickly realize that it's not about using contraceptives... It's about not being a hypocrite.. And hopefully that it's not alright to kill your son's and use the woman they were to marry as a prostitute.
But whatever right.

Christ was crucified and ascended.

Believe it or not.

BigElCat · #10 07-15-2020, 05:59 AM

The Gospel had to be spread, and it's a good thing that it can still be received by anyone.

The Kingdom of God is within us, and among us, if only you believe in Christ.

It does not matter which person had the proper authority to carry the message.

The hierarchies established subsequent to the Apostle Paul are all highly suspect. They have all vied for social and political influence or control over people, even Kingdoms and Empires.

The abuses have been many.

If you want to accept Christ as your savior, you don't need to make an alter call at a particular church. IMHO, it's best that you don't. Christ said do not pray in public, were other people can see you putting on a show. Just believe it in your spiritual heart.

Christ was the fulfillment of the Old Testament, the end of all religion. Christianity is a misunderstanding of His teaching.