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11-25-2014, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by barbara
True, but that didn't happen in this particular case no matter how much you want to believe otherwise.
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How do you know?
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11-25-2014, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Because a grand jury heard evidence from 60 witnesses, along with forensic reports, and decided you're wrong. That's good enough for me and I feel no urge to go burning and looting as a result of the decision.
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Yep. Time for a dusk to dawn curfew and I'm as lefty as anyone here.
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11-25-2014, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
That makes you utterly certain I'm wrong about... what exactly?
There were two explicit assertions in my post.
First, I asserted that the killing of Brown, as I believe it probably went down, was not justice. The grand jury finding, taken at face value, says it was not provably illegal. But I've been assured repeatedly here that 'legal' has nothing to do with justice. Does that apply only one way, then?
Second, I asserted that people's attitudes toward 'punks' leads us not to care about 'street justice' being applied to them. The grand jury finding hardly makes my assessment of how people feel true or false....
So I don't see that the grand jury finding is a good basis for you to be certain I am wrong. Care to try again?
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Shooting a felon who subsequently (and feloniously) assaults a police officer is indeed justice. Burning and looting the properties of innocent merchants to protest a grand jury finding is where the injustice lies.
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11-25-2014, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Because a grand jury heard evidence from 60 witnesses, along with forensic reports, and decided you're wrong. That's good enough for me and I feel no urge to go burning and looting as a result of the decision.
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I don't thiink that's what they were charged with deciding, or what they did decide. See my response to Zeke.
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11-25-2014, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Shooting a felon who subsequently (and feloniously) assaults a police officer is indeed justice. Burning and looting the properties of innocent merchants to protest a grand jury finding is where the injustice lies.
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A felon is a person who's been convicted of a felony. When did that happen?
I mean actually, not in your mind.
And I point out that you post hardly contradicts my assertion that folks consider 'street justice' as just fine for 'punks.'
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11-25-2014, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
A felon is a person who's been convicted of a felony. When did that happen?
I mean actually, not in your mind.
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So if I shoot a bunch of people, turn the gun on the police when they arrive and they shoot me I'm not a felon because I was never brought to trial? Splitting hairs much?
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11-25-2014, 02:12 PM
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Thanks Bob. That was horrifically interesting. I'd never be a cop.
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11-25-2014, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Shooting a felon who subsequently (and feloniously) assaults a police officer is indeed justice. Burning and looting the properties of innocent merchants to protest a grand jury finding is where the injustice lies.
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Who is the felon? He committed a misdemeanor theft, third degree assault, and then was offed.
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11-25-2014, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeG22
So if I shoot a bunch of people, turn the gun on the police when they arrive and they shoot me I'm not a felon because I was never brought to trial? Splitting hairs much?
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Connotations of terms matter. Alleged is quite different from convicted. And by the way, we weren't talking about a person who allegedly shot a lot of people.....
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11-25-2014, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
It's called showing precedent.
In October 2013, a sheriff's deputy in Santa Rosa, Calif., shot dead a 13-year-old boy carrying an airsoft replica AK-47 assault rifle. The deputy was not charged.
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If I was the boy's father there would not have been enough left of him to charge you can do a bitching lot of damage with a chainsaw or a gallon of gas.
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