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Old 11-23-2012, 05:22 PM
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Redress of damages is how I meant it. No French in my tree, mostly knot headed krauts.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:27 PM
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Redress of damages is how I meant it. No French in my tree, mostly knot headed krauts.

OK. I understand now.

How were you damaged? You asked for a corporation to replant federal land. You do not own that land, do you?
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:41 PM
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OK. I understand now.

How were you damaged? You asked for a corporation to replant federal land. You do not own that land, do you?
It's more along the lines of a demand. Asking corporations and others to use public resources responsibly is a fools errand. As a citizen I happen to believe that indeed I am a partial owner and have a stake in it. Legal fictions, aside.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:02 PM
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It's more along the lines of a demand. Asking corporations and others to use public resources responsibly is a fools errand. As a citizen I happen to believe that indeed I am a partial owner and have a stake in it. Legal fictions, aside.
That's great. Rednecks feel the same. A lot of them cried when the Gulf disaster happened. A lot of rednecks in Michigan are angry about invasive species messing up the fishing grounds that they love.

Liberals and rednecks might have something in common, e.g. a love of nature. Maybe liberal voters and redneck voters would do good to remind each other about a thing called the "tragedy of the commons".
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:13 PM
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That's great. Rednecks feel the same. A lot of them cried when the Gulf disaster happened. A lot of rednecks in Michigan are angry about invasive species messing up the fishing grounds that they love.

Liberals and rednecks might have something in common, e.g. a love of nature. Maybe liberal voters and redneck voters would do good to remind each other about a thing called the "tragedy of the commons".
Liberals are already on board with that. Rednecks, on the other hand - let's call them teabaggers - have been propagandized to believe that any talk of the commons is "creeping soci@lism". Moreover, they have a dominionist's view of exploiting nature that would set them squarely against most efforts to preserve the commons through regulation and/or prohibitions of use. Their attitudes and their behavior are precisely the "tragedy" to which you refer.

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Old 11-23-2012, 06:15 PM
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Liberals are already on board with that. Rednecks, on the other hand - let's call them teabaggers - have been propagandized to believe that any talk of the commons is "creeping soci@lism". Moreover, they have a dominionist's view of exploiting nature that would set them squarely against most efforts to preserve the commons through regulation and/or prohibitions of use. Their attitudes and their behavior are precisely the "tragedy" to which you refer.

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That's too many big words. You lost my redneck ass.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:20 PM
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That's too many big words. You lost my redneck ass.
No, I won't.

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