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Old 07-10-2013, 05:52 PM
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this just shows how foolish you all are.

not only have i watched the entire proceedings held i the presence of the jury. i also have listened to the sidebar's & case law arguments

i have a very strong background in criminal law. logic not some sense of giult over the plight of blacks guides my opinion in this matter. i have not taken as much time as i should to study Florida statute and remedies but i aint getting paid either

had martin not attacked Mr. Zimmerman and George had still shot him. i would based on his actions. filed charges of 1st deg. murder with depraved indifference & possibly added the federal hate crimes clause.

2nd murder & man 1 & 2 would also have been no brainers.

so while you sit and snivel in your self righteous ivory towers of political correctness. assured in the mindset your better than than other because your gonna stop the white devils from stepping the poor black mans throat.

im running entirely on the facts.

FACT.

Trevon Martin attacked George Zimmerman.

even the state admitted that today when their case up & blew away like a fart in the wind.
I have watched this trial also and it has not been established that Zim was attacked. How can your opinion be meaningful no matter how much you watched and studied if you hear/believe what suits you?

How can you say fact when this has not been nor could be established?

I am gonna say this straight up. Not to upset you but because it is FACT. Had Trayvon been a white kid without a hoodie and Zim a black man with a hoodie you would be all for frying Zim.

Why? not because you are a bad guy nor an overt racist. Rather because your stereotyping is too strong to be objective.

This is my honest opinion.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:54 PM
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Mr Zippy was not a trained law enforcement officer last I checked. Just a scared vigilante who bit off more then he could chew. Then used his gun as a final act of cowardliness to kill another. Now has mouth pieces and hired guns to confuses the issues.


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Old 07-10-2013, 05:55 PM
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Rather because your stereotyping is too strong to be objective.
Stereotyping implies (flawed) thought in evidence. I perceive none.

I just perceive fear. Open, raw, poorly covered up FEAR.

Basically, I see Zims.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:58 PM
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finally someone who also likes facts
As a fellow Missourian, I thank you for the kind words. Probably undeserved, but I thank you anyway.

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Old 07-10-2013, 05:58 PM
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BTW, I think the prosecution is doing an abysmal job.

If Zim walks these folks should lose their jobs.

This is a slam dunk for a competent prosecution.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:04 PM
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Except, of course, Zims is NOT a "law enforcement officer."

And your understanding of Missouri law related to self-defense and concealed carry is troglodytic at best.

Zims is/was a pussy and slew a human being (with a weapon he did not deserve to have) due to cowardice when confronted about overstepping his bounds as a citizen.

Clearly, if you possess a handgun, the world is NOT a safer place for it.

Idiocy...
Excuse me, Mr. Personality,

But I was the troglodyte who interjected Missouri Law into the discussion.

Let's give credit as to where it's due, shall we?

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Old 07-10-2013, 06:06 PM
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after all the years we have been on the same forums i really thought i owed you my respect.

i was wrong.

your a fool.
I unlike others welcome a discussion on issues. We don't have to agree all the time but are entitled still to have them.

I happen own guns and process a CC Permit for life. Do not carry a pistol as a rule. Only remember carrying to and from the range. Do not feel as if it is needed.

But do live in a area were to many own pistols and carry. Most of the time there is little or no problems. But every now and then a situation will get out of hand and a shooting will result. But here the gun owners have most all of the time gone to jail.

http://newsandtribune.com/clarkcount...s-self-defense

http://www.wdrb.com/story/15972733/c...ected-position




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Old 07-10-2013, 06:08 PM
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Excuse me, Mr. Personality,

But I was the troglodyte who interjected Missouri Law into the discussion.

Let's give credit as to where it's due, shall we?

Chas
Somehow, I don't think you share his direct interpretation.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:13 PM
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...every now and then a situation will get out of hand and a shooting will result. But here the gun owners have most all of the time gone to jail.
Because use of a firearm is "most all of the time" not an intellectually justified response to stimulus.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:14 PM
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Somehow, I don't think you share his direct interpretation.
Yeah, but I'm an attention hog.

That should be obvious by now.

And, according to my previous statement concerning a confrontation, that if you can leave, or even run away...

I'll be taking my own advice,

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