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05-01-2015, 10:13 AM
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TPP: An act of duplicity
The article below concludes: That allowing American capital to flow unconditionally abroad can continue to be sold as protecting American workers is more than an act of duplicity;
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ot-people.html
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05-01-2015, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
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Call your representatives and tell the m to vote "No" on Fast Track.
And vote for Bernie Sanders.
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05-01-2015, 02:16 PM
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I'm with Obama on this one. The consequences of a TPP are better than the consequences without, IMO.
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05-02-2015, 07:22 AM
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With China set to become the worlds number one economy by 2030. Our century was the last one this is China's turn.
I see little more the US can do other then try and negotiate. The ship has sailed on protecting the jobs here. But in this agreement for me is another bending of the knee to our bankers. For there is little protection on intellectual rights or patients I've seen so far.
Barney
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05-02-2015, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
For there is little protection on intellectual rights or patients I've seen so far.
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I wonder if that's another nod to China. In China, there is no equivalent concept of "what I create or possess is mine". If you've ever traveled to China, particularly on business, you may have had the unsettling experience of having your hotel room visited, your personal effects examined, and if you leave any electronics in the room, they will be opened, turned on, examined, and likely scanned or copied.
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05-02-2015, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
I wonder if that's another nod to China...
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China is not a part of the deal, though they may be part of the cause. The participating countries are the United States, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.
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05-02-2015, 10:07 AM
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After the last two days at work, I can't see how manufacturing could survive in this country. Seriously. Even the college educated folks in charge don't seem to have any idea what in the hell they are doing, or even care enough to spend time on the factory floor watching what goes on. It's sad but true....... It's a total mess.
Dave
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05-02-2015, 10:07 AM
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Jigsawed
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So we are going to make workers more vulnerable to protect banksters from
the new kid on the block...China.
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05-02-2015, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
China is not a part of the deal, though they may be part of the cause. The participating countries are the United States, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.
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I guess that was my point. In the next 50 years, the one commodity that I suspect will be taking it on the chin is intellectual property rights, and property rights in general. Sadly, with the rise of China, I suspect is will be easier to move their way on that issue rather than China moving toward protections for property and intellectual property rights.
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05-02-2015, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
I guess that was my point. In the next 50 years, the one commodity that I suspect will be taking it on the chin is intellectual property rights, and property rights in general.
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Well, there's popular sovereignty.
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