Deep 6 For Prop 8

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Back to the OP. Even though this ruling is correct IMHO and foreshadows where things will ultimately end up in this country, this is but a small skirmish and maybe only a temporary victory in the culture wars. The GOP will do what it can to retain it as a wedge issue.

This will be settled with the supremes and Kennedy will be the deciding vote.

[merrylander]

The 9th circuit court may rule in its favour, but then it goes to our esteemed SCOTUS where Scalia and his buddies will vote it down.

[piece-itpete]

Thank Goodness the will of the people has been overturned.

Pete

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Thank Goodness the will of the people has been overturned.

Pete

True dat, as it was with the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. The tendency for California to address controversial issues through referenda is where the problem lies. Remember Prop 13?

Representative government is supposed to protect us from the ignorance and herd mentality of the common man. Unfortunately, it seems that the GOP is trying to appeal to and capitalize upon the public's base instincts and herd mentality.

[piece-itpete]

Herd? Change?

Ah, that means legislating changing the definition of Marriage from the bench. "We WILL enlighten you, you ignorant masses!' At the wrong end of a gun.

Pete

[d-ray657]

Yup, when the majority tends to interfere with the rights of the minority, that's when the court steps in. There is no rational basis for the STATE to interfere with the decisions of two adults to commit to one another solely on the basis of the gender of the adults. A church has the First Amendment right to determine whose union it will sanction, but the church's preference should not determine the civil law.


Regards,

D-Ray

[piece-itpete]

All hail the the all wise State! Please, save us from ourselves.

Strange that it was never an issue before. I guess all those great lib leaders all those years were evil too.

Guess we'll have to change the Constitution. Unless the court can find the Constitution unConstitutional!

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Thank Goodness the will of the people has been overturned.

Pete

As it sometimes must be.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

All hail the the all wise State! Please, save us from ourselves.

Strange that it was never an issue before. I guess all those great lib leaders all those years were evil too.

Guess we'll have to change the Constitution. Unless the court can find the Constitution unConstitutional!

Pete

The Constitution defines marriage? I don't recall reading that. But, I do recall these words, "..certain inaliable rights, principle among these the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." How can people be free if the masses are forcing their religious beliefs on others? Which is what this boils down to; An attempt by the right to legislate their religious beliefs, something I personally regard as a step towards theocracy. A state endorsement of a specific religious dogma, also a clear constitutional violation.

Sorry, but I do and always will believe that there are times when the state MUST step in and protect a minority from the will of the masses in order to protect individual liberties. Without it there is no individual liberty.

Dave

[piece-itpete]

There are plenty of non religious types on both sides of this fence. What if my happiness includes polygamy?

Pete