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04-15-2024, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Just bad mouthing Elon!
What is missing...Americans cannot afford cars/trucks at the prevailing prices.
The American consumer is maxed out. Debt rides the highways.
That is why there is great fear of Chinese going to Mexico to build cars...$16,000 dollar cars.
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A bigger issue is that Tesla once was a niche product, largely bought in the US by wealthy liberals. Now nearly every vehicle manufacturer has multiple EV models and those manufacturers haven't alienated their potential buyers by embracing far-right ideology and conspiracy theories.
As for Mexico, pretty much all the big manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, Volkswagen) have a significant presence there already. And the Tesla's Cybertruck makes one wonder if Elon is still serious about making desirable vehicles.
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04-16-2024, 07:57 AM
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A bigger issue is that Tesla once was a niche product, largely bought in the US by wealthy liberals.
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A fact seemingly not noticed by Elon Musk, who has gone out of his way to piss off wealthy liberals.
I have no delusions that many if not most company CEOs are conservatives, but most have the common sense to keep it somewhat low key.
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04-16-2024, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Human
A fact seemingly not noticed by Elon Musk, who has gone out of his way to piss off wealthy liberals.
I have no delusions that many if not most company CEOs are conservatives, but most have the common sense to keep it somewhat low key.
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Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.
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04-16-2024, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.
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Yes, conservative ≠ MAGA wingnut.
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04-16-2024, 07:27 PM
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There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.
I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.
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04-17-2024, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.
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I call bullshit on you having knowledge of future battery technology that is not common knowledge.
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04-17-2024, 08:58 AM
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The legacy manufacturers cannot sell their cars and trucks.Truck prices were $60k to $90k MSRP. WTF.
For instance Dodge Rams are piling up.
Said manufacturers also were reluctant to build affordable cars. Their desire is to build trucks which have hefty profit margins. However, the economics of the consumer cannot support the prices.
Elon is correct. Prices have to fall
In the meantime Trump and the Biden administration are making big noise about Chinese over capacity and in view of Nafta do not want to see Chinese production in Mexico.
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04-21-2024, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Human
I call bullshit on you having knowledge of future battery technology that is not common knowledge.
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The DHS has a quad copter drone the size of a mini van. It looks like the 'landing craft' things in the old Star Trek TV series. Lots of people have seen it.
5' diameter blades spinning 40,000 rpm. Current consumer technology couldn't lift a payload that size, except it's own battery pack.
(talk to yourself on the internet much).
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04-21-2024, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.
I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.
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Hi BigElCat,
If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....
https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6233
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04-21-2024, 09:17 AM
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All I know is what I saw.
The batteries would lighter in weight (or mass), with the capacity to discharge more current than anything I know about. Like a helium capacitor, or maybe a 'flux capacitor' with a 'delitium crystal', that never melts down.
Science Fiction is going to hit the market.
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