Finland experiment: Basic income for the unemployed.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

This is a good start. Automation and robotics are replacing the need for workers more and more with each passing year. As a result we have a glut of potential labor which is marginalizing more and more of our population.

We need to get used to he concept of paying people not to work to prevent labor surpluses just as we have paid farmers not to grow certain crops to prevent commodity surpluses.

We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.

More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)

Humans aren't the smartest of animals.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by MrPots

We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.

More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)

Humans aren't the smartest of animals.

Well at least we still agree on something Potter. Human beings are fucking themselves out of a place at the table. And as a species, we're too dumb to do anything about it. China's one child policy is probably the smartest thing any government has ever done. Yet if dare to say it here you will get pig piled in a heartbeat.

The great thinning of the herd is coming, but it won't be by us. Mama nature is going to do it for us.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Well at least we still agree on something Potter. Human beings are fucking themselves out of a place at the table. And as a species, we're too dumb to do anything about it. China's one child policy is probably the smartest thing any government has ever done. Yet if dare to say it here you will get pig piled in a heartbeat.

The great thinning of the herd is coming, but it won't be by us. Mama nature is going to do it for us.

Except for one small problem Tom, those single children were spoiled rotten. I had the unhappy task of trying to teach a few of their software engineers before I retired.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by MrPots

We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.

More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)

Humans aren't the smartest of animals.

The white people need to breed or they will soon be a curiosity.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The white people need to breed or they will soon be a curiosity.

Mixed race couples among the younger people are getting commonplace around here and in Florida where I recently moved from. I figure that in a couple more generations the majority race will look like Derek Jeeter, Tiger Woods, or Barack Obama.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The white people need to breed or they will soon be a curiosity.

Good riddance.

[CarlV]

What a weird thread. The Finns have so many basic benefits that US citizens will never, ever, have. There is no real comparison.

The white people need to breed or they will soon be a curiosity.

Maybe I could get work as a circus freak, get groupies and such.

Carl

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by MrPots

We need to grow up and realize we cannot breed our way into prosperity. We need to have laws restricting breeding by humans.

More people = fewer jobs to go around and lower pay, higher prices for everything due to higher demand, scarcer resources cause we're using them all up. It's only going to get worse. On top of it many city infrastructures are bursting from overuse with no way to expand, and no money to expand (because a certain segment of society refuses to pay taxes)

Humans aren't the smartest of animals.

The problem here who decides the breeding pairs?

If society would just educate the use of birth control and quit the war on sex for fun. It is going to happen, get over it and have a plan.



Barney

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Oerets

The problem here who decides the breeding pairs?

If society would just educate the use of birth control and quit the war on sex for fun. It is going to happen, get over it and have a plan.



Barney

If you drill down the 'war on sex for fun' was really rules with the purpose of keeping the more valuable females from being impregnated by the wrong guys. Rules for guys were always lax, because they didn't get pregnant.

The rules are totally obsolete, fertility control is now accomplished with pills, and it doesn't actually matter so much if girls go through a party-a-lot phase. But attitudes, among the more conservative sorts, don't adjust quickly.

Those who are concerned by declining birthrates in their favorite hereditary identity group need to work to end birth control available on demand to females. Have to go back to the days when married women needed medical grounds and three doctors had to sign off on it. Otherwise, forget it. Nothing else will work.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

If you drill down the 'war on sex for fun' was really rules with the purpose of keeping the more valuable females from being impregnated by the wrong guys. Rules for guys were always lax, because they didn't get pregnant.

The rules are totally obsolete, fertility control is now accomplished with pills, and it doesn't actually matter so much if girls go through a party-a-lot phase. But attitudes, among the more conservative sorts, don't adjust quickly.

Those who are concerned by declining birthrates in their favorite hereditary identity group need to work to end birth control available on demand to females. Have to go back to the days when married women needed medical grounds and three doctors had to sign off on it. Otherwise, forget it. Nothing else will work.

It is the irony of the progressive society...the disappearance of children from its spaces.