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04-23-2014, 12:25 PM
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Yet those same folks are strangely silent when the pipeline folks come along and forcefully take land for their oil business.... or a developer decides he like to build on a piece of property owned by Joe sixpack....
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Guess what happens if one of those pipelines springs a leak on your property.
Guess who's on the hook for the environmental damage.
John
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04-23-2014, 12:45 PM
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Guess what happens if one of those pipelines springs a leak on your property.
Guess who's on the hook for the environmental damage.
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Did you hear the latest regarding BP which was in the news last week?
BP is refusing to pay for Gulf oil spill research
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/21/bps_...pill_research/
OK to quote Salon? This was in all regular news channels on Monday.
Simply put, they are questioning the research process. And yet they get to bid on the Gulf oil drilling contracts! Apologize for going off topic.
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04-23-2014, 02:16 PM
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Did you hear the latest regarding BP which was in the news last week?
BP is refusing to pay for Gulf oil spill research
OK to quote Salon? This was in all regular news channels on Monday.
Simply put, they are questioning the research process. And yet they get to bid on the Gulf oil drilling contracts! Apologize for going off topic.
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Oh, hell, that's nothing!
Did you know that BP had an identical blowout to the Deepwater Horizon in the Caspian Sea back in 2008? Identical right down to the exact cause: the use of quick-drying concrete to seal off the drill hole. The quick-drying cement doesn't cure hard enough to resist the pressures but, hey, when you're leasing the platform for a half a million a day, the quicker the concrete sets.............
These people ought to all be in jail!
Part 1
Part 2
John
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04-23-2014, 02:35 PM
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Guess what happens if one of those pipelines springs a leak on your property.
Guess who's on the hook for the environmental damage.
John
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Don't tell me...it would only piss me off.....
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04-23-2014, 02:46 PM
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These people ought to all be in jail!
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No, they ought to be at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico in quick concrete overshoes.
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04-23-2014, 03:13 PM
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Don't tell me...it would only piss me off.....
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All I can say is never grant an easement for a pipeline to an oil company. It would be far better to let them take your land under the shiny new eminent domain interpretation that the SCOTUS gave us in the Kelo case.
John
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04-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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All I can say is never grant an easement for a pipeline to an oil company. It would be far better to let them take your land under the shiny new eminent domain interpretation that the SCOTUS gave us in the Kelo case.
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I've heard that if you don't own the mineral rights some mining company that does can go in and strip mine your property and you can't do a damned thing about it.
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04-23-2014, 03:37 PM
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I've heard that if you don't own the mineral rights some mining company that does can go in and strip mine your property and you can't do a damned thing about it.
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I think the conveyance of the mineral rights has to predate your ownership of the land. In other words, if nobody currently owns the rights to your land, they'd have to try to buy them from you.
Of course, if you did sell them to, say, a mining company and then sold the property to someone else, that buyer could be in for a nasty surprise.
John
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04-24-2014, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
I think the conveyance of the mineral rights has to predate your ownership of the land. In other words, if nobody currently owns the rights to your land, they'd have to try to buy them from you.
Of course, if you did sell them to, say, a mining company and then sold the property to someone else, that buyer could be in for a nasty surprise.
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Now that Bundy has become famous in the 'Bagger community, he's holding a daily press conference. He used his latest press conference to offer his views on the government dependency of African-Americans.
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us...-the-west.html
It seems now that a number of the conservative luminaries who supported him are fleeing from him like rats from a sinking ship.
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04-24-2014, 09:01 AM
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Isn't it amazing how people like Bundy can glamorize slavery? Seems they neglect the bit where the owner takes someone's 'mate' into his bed on whim. Oh sure thay had something to do allright and no bloody choice about doing it.
"Owning' other human beings seems to be thing with some men, they even have serve and obey in their wedding vows.
Maybe the title of this thread should be Another Whack-job . . . .
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