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Old 01-26-2017, 12:03 PM
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Oh--then I guess that doesn't work.

You seem to think a nice game of 'aren't foreigners awful' would be productive. Why?
I don't know how you come to that. I am interested in the Mexican political and economic situation - don't know a lot about it.

Yes, I hate those foreigners. I married a Bulgarian, employ 3 Uzbeks, 1 Turk, and 2 Nigerians and best friends are Russian. I just like to keep my enemies closer . . .
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:08 PM
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I don't know how you come to that. I am interested in the Mexican political and economic situation - don't know a lot about it.

Yes, I hate those foreigners. I married a Bulgarian, employ 3 Uzbeks, 1 Turk, and 2 Nigerians and best friends are Russian. I just like to keep my enemies closer . . .
You're going-in assumption seemed to be 'boy is their big shit wrong with them.' How one feels about individuals one knows doesn't ever relate strongly tto how one feels about big groups in the abstract.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:12 PM
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Sometimes things are what people say they are - you reading I believe people are shit because I want to know the causes of recent immigration waves says more about you, my friend. Very simplistic and prejudiced assumptions.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:13 PM
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Sometimes things are what people say they are - you reading I believe people are shit because I want to know the causes of recent immigration waves says more about you, my friend. Very simplistic and prejudiced assumptions.
There hasn't been recent immigration waves.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:18 PM
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There hasn't been recent immigration waves.
OK - I will not dispute that until I have read more. It is interesting to me - once I know more I'll start a thread - or not.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:26 PM
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Sometimes things are what people say they are - you reading I believe people are shit because I want to know the causes of recent immigration waves says more about you, my friend. Very simplistic and prejudiced assumptions.
Not what I meant. Your going in-assumption was there must be something big wrong with Mexico. Not precisely the same as thinking Mexicans are shit. though not actually so far from it either....

The number 1 reason for immigration is simple--wages much higher in USA. Workers here can afford remittances home that are very significant in Mexican economy. So what's wrong with Mexico is low wages.

Of course, there are lots of immigrants, and reasons #2-100.
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OK - I will not dispute that until I have read more. It is interesting to me - once I know more I'll start a thread - or not.
Mexico is a conduit, for mainly Central Americans...it is big business.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:03 PM
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"Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s job running the State Department just got considerably more difficult. The entire senior level of management officials resigned Wednesday, part of an ongoing mass exodus of senior foreign service officers who don’t want to stick around for the Trump era.
Tillerson was actually inside the State Department’s headquarters in Foggy Bottom on Wednesday, taking meetings and getting the lay of the land. I reported Wednesday morning that the Trump team was narrowing its search for his No. 2, and that it was looking to replace the State Department’s long-serving undersecretary for management, Patrick Kennedy. Kennedy, who has been in that job for nine years, was actively involved in the transition and was angling to keep that job under Tillerson, three State Department officials told me.
Then suddenly on Wednesday afternoon, Kennedy and three of his top officials resigned unexpectedly, four State Department officials confirmed. Assistant Secretary of State for Administration Joyce Anne Barr, Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Ambassador Gentry O. Smith, director of the Office of Foreign Missions, followed him out the door. All are career foreign service officers who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations." WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f2efc614557b

Rudderless and adrift. Great job, Trump.
Spin, spin and more spin.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politi...ion/index.html

Patrick Kennedy, who served for nine years as the undersecretary for management, Assistant Secretaries for Administration and Consular Affairs Joyce Anne Barr and Michele Bond, and Ambassador Gentry Smith, director of the Office for Foreign Missions, were sent letters by the White House that their service was no longer required, the sources told CNN.

All four, career officers serving in positions appointed by the President, submitted letters of resignation per tradition at the beginning of a new administration.

"Any implication that that these four people quit is wrong," one senior State Department official said. "These people are loyal to the secretary, the President and to the State Department. There is just not any attempt here to dis the President. People are not quitting and running away in disgust. This is the White House cleaning house."

So, yeah, if the While House's intent to clean house, then mission accomplished. So, what are you and WaPo getting all spun up about?
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:06 PM
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Here's more about the "august" Mr Kennedy. If this is true, I'd want to give him the boot too if I were Tillerson.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...epartment.html

Republicans have criticized Kennedy for his conduct related to classified email status, Libya, Benghazi and internal State investigations. Trump administration officials have wanted to replace him.

In October, Fox News reported that Kennedy proposed a “quid pro quo” to convince the FBI to strip the classification on an email from Hillary Clinton’s server – and repeatedly tried to “influence” the bureau’s decision when his offer was denied, even taking his plea up the chain of command, according to FBI documents.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:07 PM
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I read both accounts in the news today.

Which is real and which is fake news?

Considering the track record from the Trump camp when it come to lying It makes it difficult to tell.
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