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01-17-2017, 10:04 AM
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Poll results from this week.
Trump favorable rating at 40% (Unfavorable 54%)
Obama's favorable rating is 61%
Obama was right, he could have easily won a third term if the constitution permitted.
So Obama was a bad president and Trump now is going to be our savior?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.0d81d181b7d5
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01-17-2017, 10:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajoo
Poll results from this week.
Trump favorable rating at 40% (Unfavorable 54%)
Obama's favorable rating is 61%
Obama was right, he could have easily won a third term if the constitution permitted.
So Obama was a bad president and Trump now is going to be our savior?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.0d81d181b7d5
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Terribly unpresidented numbers for Il Douche. I'm sure the 'short fingered vulgarian' is tweeting his shriveled little heart out this morning.
Sad.
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01-17-2017, 10:59 AM
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So. People like Obama, but he was a failure as President.
They don't like Trump, but he may make a good President. Who knows.
Nobody does.
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01-17-2017, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
So. People like Obama, but he was a failure as President.
They don't like Trump, but he may make a good President. Who knows.
Nobody does.
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A person can and will be judged by the company he keeps and his past financial dealings. This is why I believe his negatives outweigh his positives.
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01-17-2017, 12:33 PM
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"failure"? You sure have a strange definition of failure, Zero.
Pres. Obama inherited an economy in freefall after 8 years of Republican malfeasance. After 75 straight months of positive job numbers we are at 4.7% unemployed and the Dow went from a smoking ruin in the 6,000s to almost 20,000.
If that's failure? Please give us some more.
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01-17-2017, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
So. People like Obama, but he was a failure as President.
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Well no, he was not a failure. That is all GOP propaganda,
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01-17-2017, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
"failure"? You sure have a strange definition of failure, Zero.
Pres. Obama inherited an economy in freefall after 8 years of Republican malfeasance. After 75 straight months of positive job numbers we are at 4.7% unemployed and the Dow went from a smoking ruin in the 6,000s to almost 20,000.
If that's failure? Please give us some more.
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Yes, yes!
If this is failure? I'd like a second helping, please.
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"American" means calling everyone who disagrees with you a traitor?
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01-17-2017, 04:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajoo
Poll results from this week.
Trump favorable rating at 40% (Unfavorable 54%)
Obama's favorable rating is 61%
Obama was right, he could have easily won a third term if the constitution permitted.
So Obama was a bad president and Trump now is going to be our savior?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.0d81d181b7d5
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Clinton looked like a sure thing.
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01-19-2017, 07:50 AM
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What Does Vladimir Putin See in Donald Trump?
This NT Times op-ed by Thomas B. Edsall deserves highlighting in detail.
The money paragraph, in my opinion:
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Many of the domestic and foreign policy experts I contacted suggested that Russia would not need to blackmail Trump to get what it wanted — that Trump’s susceptibility to praise has made him vulnerable to manipulation.
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Various statements from experts follow, ending with:
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Fred Wertheimer, founder and president of Democracy 21, a nonpartisan organization promoting campaign finance reform, agreed that
"Putin sees in Trump someone who is enormously susceptible to flattery, which Putin is perfectly happy to provide in order to achieve his national objectives." Putin’s major objective, Wertheimer wrote by email, is
"to break up the Western alliance and he appears to see Trump as an excellent vehicle to achieve this goal." In an interview on Jan. 16 with the Times of London and Germany’s Bild, Trump repeated his assertion that NATO is “obsolete”....
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But possibly more significantly in the long run, the battle now taking place over the exposure vs. the denial of Russian influence plays right into Russia's ultimate objectives:
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How do “kompromat” and cyber hacking corrode public belief in verifiable truth?
In a Jan. 15 Times article, my colleague Amanda Taub writes:
"Specific leaks may take aim at powerful individuals, but in the longer term, kompromat serves the interests of the powerful, which is why it is often a tool of autocrats. By eroding the very idea of a shared reality, and by spreading apathy and confusion among a public that learns to distrust leaders and institutions alike, kompromat undermines a society’s ability to hold the powerful to account and ensure the proper functioning of government."
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01-19-2017, 09:53 AM
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Yet, sixty some percent think the country is heading in the wrong direction.
Since when was having a likeable leader any indication of the success or failure.
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