Rip mic 1947-2014

[icenine]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...#axzz2uMkjv8Sj



to paraphrase Monty Python "I am not dead yet".....

[BlueStreak]

Swords into plowshares. Should've been done long ago.

[bobabode]

Finally the Peace Dividend arises. 'Bout time.

[finnbow]

Wait and see. The same clowns who pushed for the sequester (which is driving these reductions) are now the first to cry foul when shown its effects.

[CarlV]

No times access so I googled. Oh well
https://www.google.com/search?q=Rip+...ta&channel=rcs


Carl

[bobabode]

How long will it take for those Republicants who were for the draw down to be agin it? You know it's coming.

Obama Derangement Syndrome will raise it's ugly pin head, sure as the sun sets into the west.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by CarlV

No times access so I googled. Oh well
https://www.google.com/search?q=Rip+...ta&channel=rcs


Carl

Here ya go Carl.


"WASHINGTON — The Army will shrink to its lowest troop levels since before World War II under a budget proposed Monday by the Obama administration that seeks to downsize the Pentagon from the wartime buildup of the last 13 years, and calls for retiring hundreds of aging aircraft and warships.
The proposals reflect changing fortunes in the once-sacrosanct Pentagon budget. Congress has already ordered nearly $500 billion in defense spending cuts over the next decade, and automatic budget cuts — only partially rescinded — have caused a harsh reevaluation of military needs as the nation closes out the punishing ground wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Some of the proposed shifts are likely to face stiff resistance in Congress, where members of both parties staunchly protect military families, bases and defense contractors in their districts even as they force the Pentagon to cut costs.
But if Congress approves, the Army would drop from today's active-duty force of 522,000 soldiers to between 440,000 and 450,000 over the next three years.
"Since we are no longer sizing the force for prolonged" ground wars, the Army is larger than required and "larger than we can afford," Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, who announced the plan, said at the Pentagon.
California may win more than it loses in the shift of resources as older aircraft are phased out and new ones are brought on board.
Spending for cyberwarfare will increase under the plan. That could benefit larger government contractors in Silicon Valley, including Cisco Systems Inc., Hewlett-Packard Co., Oracle Corp. and a growing number of start-ups in defense-related equipment and software.
In addition, Northrop Grumman Corp. uses a facility in Palmdale to build the unmanned RQ-4 Global Hawk drone aircraft that will replace the high-flying U-2 spy planes, famous in the early Cold War but now proposed for retirement. The company has about 2,500 employees on the program in Southern California.
The Pentagon previously had planned to mothball a version of the Global Hawk and keep the U-2 flying. But Hagel said the operating costs of the drone had fallen and that with its greater range and endurance, it "makes a better high-altitude reconnaissance platform for the future."
The Air Force has 32 U-2s based at Beale Air Force Base in Marysville, Calif.
Hagel also called for retiring the Air Force's entire fleet of A-10 "Warthog" ground attack fighters, as well as mothballing half of the Navy's fleet of 22 cruisers, and building only 32 of the Navy's littoral combat ships, not 52 as previously planned. The shallow-draft, lightly armed warship is designed for clearing mines and anti-submarine warfare. Hagel said it might not be heavily armed enough and called for studying whether a new frigate would be better.
The only military force to grow would be special operations forces. Increasingly used for training and counter-terrorism missions around the world, the elite force would increase by several thousand to 69,700.
The Army had 257,000 soldiers in uniform before World War II, a number that quickly swelled to more than 8 million. After a postwar drawdown, it increased again to more than 1.5 million during the Korean and Vietnam wars. It was on a downward trajectory until the buildup that followed the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Several Republican lawmakers quickly criticized the proposals Monday, arguing that cutting ground forces as well as warships and fighter planes could put U.S. security at risk.
"Reducing the size of the Army to its lowest levels in 70 years does not accurately reflect the current security environment," said Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). "Cutting key Air Force and naval capabilities just as we are trying to increase our presence in the Pacific does not make strategic sense."
The cuts may also face opposition because they would require painful reductions to National Guard units around the country, which enjoy strong backing on Capitol Hill. The plan calls for trimming the Army National Guard by 20,000 to 335,000 and the Army Reserve by 10,000 to 195,000.
The proposed budget also would phase out the A-10 Warthog. Though the low-flying, heavily-armored attack plane was developed in the early 1970s primarily to destroy Soviet tanks, its congressional supporters have beaten back previous attempts to kill it.
The 283 A-10s in the Air Force, many flown by Air National Guard units, are on bases in 10 states, including Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. Retiring the plane would save $3.5 billion, but Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) quickly rose to its defense Monday, expressing concern that the proposed cuts might "harm America's military readiness."
Also meeting resistance in Congress is a proposal to transfer all Apache attack helicopters, which are used exclusively in combat, from the Army National Guard to the active-duty Army. In return, the Army would transfer Black Hawk helicopters, workhorse aircraft that can be used for transport and other missions, to the Guard.
Defense officials argued that the cuts were necessary to preserve more important capabilities and to keep weapons programs that are vital as the United States places greater emphasis on deterring Chinese expansion in the western Pacific, and on preventing terrorist attacks from the Middle East and Africa."



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[icenine]

Somehow Dave I have a feeling this is not the beginning of the end.

[Ike Bana]

I'm sure there will be plenty of pissing and moaning from members of Congress on either side of the aisle who have big defense contractors in their districts.

I'm sure we all realize, on an individual basis, how important jobs and employment are, but as a country...at some point everything can't be about jobs.

[CarlV]

Thanks Bob!
I do not see the goppers letting that happen as long as McCain is in office even though 50 billion a year reduction sounds pretty responsible. It is much better budget cutting to let schoolchildren and grandma starve instead.

Carl