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Old 07-20-2019, 11:38 AM
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I'm talking blatant along the lines of declaring martial law in sanctuary cities, arresting federal judges for treason, arresting congressional opponents, stuff like that. And military supervision of election due to unrest.....
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Old 07-20-2019, 05:10 PM
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The US has a corrupt elite.
American Fascism at work.
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Old 07-21-2019, 06:40 AM
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I'm talking blatant along the lines of declaring martial law in sanctuary cities, arresting federal judges for treason, arresting congressional opponents, stuff like that. And military supervision of election due to unrest.....
You're talking nonsense. He can't even get his wall built.
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Old 07-21-2019, 07:54 AM
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You're talking nonsense. He can't even get his wall built.
Not while staying inside the lines, he can't. But I expect arresting far fewer than 40 members of the House would get him his wall.

As long as the Senate won't convict on impeachment, why need he stay within the lines? As long as Barr says he has the power, why not use it to avert electoral disaster?

Do you think if the gloves came off along the lines I outlined, the Senate would vote to impeach? Or would the majority remain corrupted and/or cowed?

And the other little problem--what if the Senate did impeach, and he refused to go? Then it's a question of which way the Army goes. And the Army is pretty authoritarian, lots of Trump support in the Army....

The first step down this road is convincing the public that many House members are Enemies of the People. How's that working so far?
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You're talking nonsense. He can't even get his wall built.
And that is so obvious.
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:56 PM
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And that is so obvious.
Just answer this. Would the current Senate vote to convict on impeachment if Trump did go out on 5th Avenue and shoot someone?
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:07 PM
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Just answer this. Would the current Senate vote to convict on impeachment if Trump did go out on 5th Avenue and shoot someone?
No, but it would make for a great Law & Order episode.
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Old 07-21-2019, 08:57 PM
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The 'no' means Trump is free to engage in more dangerous lawlessness, such as I suggested, if motivated. Fear of prosecution if out of power would be a strong motivator.

This unfortunately is reality, not a TV show.
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:04 PM
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An argument from Sun Tzu suggests it's better to leave Trump, and Republicans generally, a way out.

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Those who want to defeat Trump should read the ancient Chinese strategist Sun Tzu. He said that a general should leave a route free when an enemy is surrounded. “Do not press a desperate foe too hard,” he wrote, knowing that a cornered person will fight to the death. The more people who feel cornered, the more people will disregard Trump’s statements and character to defend what they hold most dear. Until Trump’s opponents grasp this fact, nothing Trump says will do anything to weaken his support.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.4bebaa88effb
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The 'no' means Trump is free to engage in more dangerous lawlessness, such as I suggested, if motivated. Fear of prosecution if out of power would be a strong motivator.

This unfortunately is reality, not a TV show.
Army Lets Slip That It's Conducting Secret Operation Around D.C.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ion-around-d-c
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