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Old 12-02-2011, 11:28 AM
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I llke to watch.

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Old 12-02-2011, 11:30 AM
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Anybody that would argue with that is just an ignorant asshole and ought to be shot!

(That's funny... I don't feel any better. Hmmmm.)
To be completely honest, I'm fast working up to one of those "What IS the point of this exercise?" moments like I had about a year ago.

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Old 12-02-2011, 01:03 PM
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When I grew up in Ohio, in the 1970s, they had one of the best public and vocational school systems in the country. We also had an immense amount of heavy industry.

Then one day someone decided that we had it too good. That competiton with lower cost nations would be good for us. We'd be sooooo much better off.

How'd that work out, genius?

Dave
I'm right there with you on NAFTA. Didn't like the idea then, don't like it now. We should be taxing the hell out of imports that compete with U.S. made products.

Now on the education thing, you can blame it on the loss of industry/funding if you want, but that doesn't explain why education sucks everywhere. Here in Alaska, they've been spending obscene amounts on education since the early 70's, yet the performance decline is as severe as anywhere else. The problems in education are systemic.
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:23 PM
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To be completely honest, I'm fast working up to one of those "What IS the point of this exercise?" moments like I had about a year ago.

Chas
It's for the personal worth affirmation and intelligent discussion Chas!

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PS I hope no one minds me today, I'm on a tear.
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:30 PM
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I'm right there with you on NAFTA. Didn't like the idea then, don't like it now. We should be taxing the hell out of imports that compete with U.S. made products.

Now on the education thing, you can blame it on the loss of industry/funding if you want, but that doesn't explain why education sucks everywhere. Here in Alaska, they've been spending obscene amounts on education since the early 70's, yet the performance decline is as severe as anywhere else. The problems in education are systemic.
If you put tarriffs on cars coming from Canada the Big Three will be very unhappy with you.

For example the Chev Impalas are made in Oshawa, no idea what Ford and Chrysler make up there but I am sure they do some.

Speaking as a former educator the problem with the schools here are to many alleged "experts" interferring. If they would simply get the hell out of the way and let teachers teach we would be better off. Sooner or later it will dawn on these idiots that life is not a multi-part question.
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:31 PM
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To be completely honest, I'm fast working up to one of those "What IS the point of this exercise?" moments like I had about a year ago.

Chas
Absolutely no point whatsoever Chas, surely you knew that.
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:40 PM
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I'm right there with you on NAFTA. Didn't like the idea then, don't like it now. We should be taxing the hell out of imports that compete with U.S. made products.

Now on the education thing, you can blame it on the loss of industry/funding if you want, but that doesn't explain why education sucks everywhere. Here in Alaska, they've been spending obscene amounts on education since the early 70's, yet the performance decline is as severe as anywhere else. The problems in education are systemic.
I agree that the problems in education are systemic. The problem is with an economic system that leaves up to a third of households in poverty. There is a direct correlation between the economic status of a neighborhood and the level of academic success that occurs in the neighborhood schools.

Our culture is also a problem. The drivel that passes for entertainment on the boob tube has a numbing effect on the minds of its captives. We banned TV and video games on school nights and saw an increase in academic success in our family.

Our culture also fails to accord social status to teachers or to academic achievers. In the countries that are out-pacing us in academic success, teachers are recognized as leaders in their communities. Here, they are displayed in various portions of the media as selfish, overpaid, lazy drains on society. Intellectual capacity is reviled as "elitism." As a society we create dis-incentives to achieve academic success.

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Old 12-02-2011, 01:40 PM
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Can I join in the fun?

"Shut your festering gob you tit! Your type makes me puke! You vacuous toffee-nosed malodorous pervert!"



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Now that's more like it!
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:46 PM
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To be completely honest, I'm fast working up to one of those "What IS the point of this exercise?" moments like I had about a year ago.

Chas
That is what I am afraid a lot of people are doing. There are a lot of intelligent people here with interesting things to say about a lot of different subjects. I would like to see more people join this forum but if it starts to look like so many other forums on the net, with people ranting and raving and calling each other names, why would anyone want to join? (I defer to Rodney King.)
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:30 PM
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Here, they are displayed in various portions of the media as selfish, overpaid, lazy drains on society. Intellectual capacity is reviled as "elitism."
I think that's a plank of one of our major national party's platform.
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