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07-23-2014, 10:29 PM
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Your lucky that the management haven't found a way to have you run production! One of my son's is in maintenance (non-union BTW) here and runs a machine when not fixing or everything running smooth!
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It's worse, Barney. They've been trying, unsuccessfully, to train production employees to do our jobs.
Dave
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07-23-2014, 10:36 PM
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Guys, this is what the real world looks like in manufacturing today. The current misconception of American manufacturing is that we're all lazy, overcompensated and sitting in the break room drinking sodas and threatening to strike if anyone asks us to do some work. I dunno, maybe such things existed somewhere at some time but I've never experienced it personally and I suspect that keeping that negative image alive has a purpose for certain people.
But, this is what is really going on where the rubber meets the road.
Dave
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07-23-2014, 10:38 PM
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It's worse, Barney. They've been trying, unsuccessfully, to train production employees to do our jobs.
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I learned with my time in production. Grinding teeth at night when sleeping and all that. The A$$ holes will FK U no matter what!
This sounds like the classic numbers game. Force the higher paid to accept lower pay. Classic Six Sigma (Jack Welch) thinking after all!
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07-23-2014, 11:57 PM
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"I would like to share a story with you. It's a story about a chicken and a pig.
A chicken and a pig are walking down the road, when the chicken proposes the two of them start a restaurant. The pig asks, "What should we call this new restaurant?". To which the chicken replies, "Ham and Eggs."
See, that's the kind of dedication we need from you, our employees. We need more people like the pig, willing to sacrifice whatever it takes for the good of the business.......".
The pig gets to "sacrifice" his life and those of other pigs once he's gone. The chicken gets to lay eggs, live and collect the money.
This is what we were told in the monthly employee/management meeting last night, by our Plant Manager. Which, of course, was followed by the unveiling of the new shift schedule which will reduce the production employees to 34.5 hours a week.
No, I DO NOT LIKE what you "pro-business" types are turning my country into.
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I suspect the do more with less mantra is still around. After hearing this once too often in a CPE course I pointed out that the ultimate expectation would be do everything with nothing.
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07-24-2014, 02:07 AM
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The corporations are starting to learn how to make money without the humans.
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07-24-2014, 02:23 AM
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I see a future as batteries. Adaptables! The very best power for any job.
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07-24-2014, 05:00 AM
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I suspect the do more with less mantra is still around. After hearing this once too often in a CPE course I pointed out that the ultimate expectation would be do everything with nothing.
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The corporations are starting to learn how to make money without the humans.
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Which, of course, cannot work. You don't create prosperity by employing people only in shitty paying occupations. Just because the employer loves the idea doesn't make it a good thing for the rest of society. And contrary to what some believe, those able to do the high tech, professional jobs competently are a minority. Remove all of the low and unskilled jobs and you create more headaches for the social safety net. Make it so that none of those jobs pay worth a shit and you cripple consumerism.
Come to think of it; That's what we have as we speak.
Dave
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07-24-2014, 05:03 AM
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I see a future as batteries. Adaptables! The very best power for any job.
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And disposable. Use 'em up and toss them out. Hey, what a great philosophy to run human society on.....................
Dave
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07-24-2014, 02:58 PM
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(Fortunately, for me, this does not yet apply to the maintenance department. We will remain on our current schedule.)
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For now.....
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07-24-2014, 03:00 PM
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No bennies for the temps. Surprised ya'll weren't made independent contract employees....
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