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03-24-2015, 01:41 PM
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"A stunning victory."
As far as I've been able to determine there has not been a peep outta the usual suspects around here about the recent elections in Israel. Reckon what that's all about?
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(CNN)Israel's ruling Likud Party pulled off a victory in Tuesday's election -- and it was a stunning one. During the campaign, incumbent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had come in for heavy criticism from across the political spectrum, for reasons ranging from concerns over his frosty relationship with the White House, to his fixation on the Iran nuclear issue, to allegations over Netanyahu's household expenses. Yet despite this unpromising backdrop, Likud is on course to win 30 seats in the Knesset.
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Why? Because they know that, American aid notwithstanding, they're in this on their own. Nobody's gonna send any flesh and blood to fight by their side. Kuwait...yep. Afghanistan...sure. Iraq...of course. Israel...fuck no. Not much of anybody outside of the international community of Jews gives a shit in Yasser Arafat's hat if Israel were over-run tomorrow by a million sacrificial Iranians in one of their insane suicide charges. And it's pretty goddamn stupid as Israel is the only democracy for thousands of miles in the region...and the only country where we won't be seeing some sick Islamic religious fanatic funding suicide squads to sneak over here and blow a few more thousand of us to shreds.
So it appears that Israelis have decided that the rest of their world can take their Zionism=racism and their disapproval of Benjamin Netanyahu and stuff it. Well done.
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03-24-2015, 02:25 PM
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As far as I've been able to determine there has not been a peep outta the usual suspects around here about the recent elections in Israel. Reckon what that's all about?
Why? Because they know that, American aid notwithstanding, they're in this on their own. Nobody's gonna send any flesh and blood to fight by their side. Kuwait...yep. Afghanistan...sure. Iraq...of course. Israel...fuck no. Not much of anybody outside of the international community of Jews gives a shit in Yasser Arafat's hat if Israel were over-run tomorrow by a million sacrificial Iranians in one of their insane suicide charges. And it's pretty goddamn stupid as Israel is the only democracy for thousands of miles in the region...and the only country where we won't be seeing some sick Islamic religious fanatic funding suicide squads to sneak over here and blow a few more thousand of us to shreds.
So it appears that Israelis have decided that the rest of their world can take their Zionism=racism and their disapproval of Benjamin Netanyahu and stuff it. Well done.
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I'd suggest the reason that there hasn't been a discussion of the Israeli election is that you, Ike, have totally stifled any discussion on the subject and you did it with posts like the above. Your position, in advance of any discussion, is that anyone who adopts a position at odds with your own is an anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic terrorist lover. What the fuck is the point of trying to have a discussion that has been preempted by that kind of horse shit?
So, go fuck yourself
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I'd suggest the reason that there hasn't been a discussion of the Israeli election is that you, Ike, have totally stifled any discussion on the subject and you did it with posts like the above. Your position, in advance of any discussion, is that anyone who adopts a position at odds with your own is an anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic terrorist lover. What the fuck is the point of trying to have a discussion that has been preempted by that kind of horse shit?
So, go fuck yourself
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I made an offer in the Schock thread. And another in the Ferguson redux thread. That's all the goodwill I have available for you. Your choice.
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C'mon bob...I don't give a shit about Netanyahu. He's another politician, George Bush, Barack Obama, Ted Cruz, Benjamin Netanyahu. The meat of my post is about the Israeli people. Israelis don't feel safe where they live. Would you? Israelis went for the guy who they feel gives them their best chance at survival. There are other issues in Israel, but when it comes down to it this is what every Israeli is thinking when they go into the voting booth. They've decided that Netanyahu give them the best odds for surviving. Good for them.
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03-24-2015, 03:04 PM
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C'mon bob...I don't give a shit about Netanyahu. He's another politician, George Bush, Barack Obama, Ted Cruz, Benjamin Netanyahu. The meat of my post is about the Israeli people. Israelis don't feel safe where they live. Would you? Israelis went for the guy who they feel gives them their best chance at survival. There are other issues in Israel, but when it comes down to it this is what every Israeli is thinking when they go into the voting booth. They've decided that Netanyahu give them the best odds for surviving. Good for them.
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Yet Netanyahu invited the Jews of Europe to emigrate to Israel so they'd be safe.
Also, the rhetoric that Netanyahu used on the eve of the election, no two state solution, more illegal settlements and race baiting the Israeli Arabs, is virtually guaranteed to further entrench attitudes and polarize the two sides. The net result, of course, is to make Israel less safe, not safer.
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03-24-2015, 03:12 PM
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C'mon bob...I don't give a shit about Netanyahu. He's another politician, George Bush, Barack Obama, Ted Cruz, Benjamin Netanyahu. The meat of my post is about the Israeli people. Israelis don't feel safe where they live. Would you? Israelis went for the guy who they feel gives them their best chance at survival. There are other issues in Israel, but when it comes down to it this is what every Israeli is thinking when they go into the voting booth. They've decided that Netanyahu give them the best odds for surviving. Good for them.
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Meh, judging by all the haserai surrounding Bibi giving the POTUS the one fingered salute, Bibi seems to be hurting Israel more than helping, imho.
Bibi and his free spending wife remind me of a former governor of Virginia at this point.
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
...The meat of my post is about the Israeli people. Israelis don't feel safe where they live. Would you? Israelis went for the guy who they feel gives them their best chance at survival. There are other issues in Israel, but when it comes down to it this is what every Israeli is thinking when they go into the voting booth. They've decided that Netanyahu give them the best odds for surviving. Good for them.
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Replace Israeli with German and Netanyahu with Hitler?
GODWIN'S LAW MELTDOWN.
But it does point out how embarrassingly stupid (per usual) Ike's pseudo argument is...
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03-25-2015, 12:31 AM
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Ike,
Nobody gives a shit, because the whole world knows the story of Israel and the lightning rod for shit storms it has always been and always will be......and they are sick of it. America is a little slow on the uptake because of all of our uber-Christian "End Times" seeking lunatics and the smart Jews who seek their support.
If you want to shed blood for Israel, fine. You know where it is. Go buy yourself a rifle and get on the plane.
Have a Great Morning Ike!
Love,
Dave
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Ike,
Nobody gives a shit, because the whole world knows the story of Israel and the lightning rod for shit storms it has always been and always will be......and they are sick of it. America is a little slow on the uptake because of all of our uber-Christian "End Times" seeking lunatics and the smart Jews who seek their support.
If you want to shed blood for Israel, fine. You know where it is. Go buy yourself a rifle and get on the plane.
Have a Great Morning Ike!
Love,
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I am having an excellent morning, Dave. Sitting here with the blonde having a cup of coffee...and she's looking as edible as the day I met her when we were both 17. ("She's too cute to be a minute over 17." - Chuck Berry)
I will admit the support from fundamentalist Christians is a bit queer isn't it? I know some of them, like the Salvation Army folks, really believe that Jews are "the chosen". And as a big-time SA elder I once knew used to say, "The only way into heaven is on the coat-tails of a Jew." But I will agree that most of the support from US Christians is political, which I suppose is a shame.
Just please don't leave out all the non-end timer American Jews who are providing financial aid and moral support to their Israeli brethren.
But y'know speaking of "sick of it"...the whole world has been sick of Jews and done it's best to rid itself of Jews in one way or another going back way further than 1946. The 3rd Century BCE in Egypt was a long time ago. So non-Jew humans have had plenty of time to refine their animosity. Typically because Jews have historically been resistant to accept the religious and social standard of whichever predominant culture they were stuck in. Humans don't like that shit much, y'know? Witness the Alexandria slaughter in 38 CE, the Spanish Inquisition, and of course the Holocaust. But what the heck...you want the benefit of being a Jew you gotta accept all that goes with it. And finally the Jews are handed a place of their own so that the rest of the world doesn't have to deal with so many of them anymore (you must know that's what the partition of Israel was really all about)...and, of course nobody likes that either.
"Oy vey ist mir.", as uncle Abe used to say.
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