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11-04-2016, 05:11 PM
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It was an excellent post. I liked how you began the last paragraph with Obama and ended with Reagan. Didn't you vote for both?
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11-04-2016, 05:28 PM
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It was an excellent post. I liked how you began the last paragraph with Obama and ended with Reagan. Didn't you vote for both?
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I chalk it up to the duality of man, the Jungian thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VHKpGJX29s
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11-05-2016, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
"The U.S. labor market turned in another solid month as employers added 161,000 jobs in October and the unemployment rate dipped back down to 4.9%, the Labor Department said Friday.
There was also good news on workers' pay, which accelerated last month. The average hourly earnings of all private-sector workers rose by 10 cents to $25.92 in October — up 2.8% from a year ago." LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...104-story.html
Thanks Obama. Steady as she goes.
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This is why both Romney and Trump could claim they would have economic recovery on day one, if elected...........
Because they both planned to steal credit. That's been part of the Republican trick since St. Ronnie claimed credit for hostage release on inauguration day. Republicans are simply scumbags who've legitimized their scumbaggery.
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11-05-2016, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
This is why both Romney and Trump could claim they would have economic recovery on day one, if elected...........
Because they both planned to steal credit. That's been part of the Republican trick since St. Ronnie claimed credit for hostage release on inauguration day. Republicans are simply scumbags who've legitimized their scumbaggery.
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Indeed. Romney promised results in terms of unemployment, the stock market and gasoline prices that have been dwarfed by Obama's actual results.
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11-05-2016, 12:14 PM
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The raw job add numbers have never told the whole story.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news...s-under-obama/
The U.S. has had the longest streak of job growth under Obama. For 73 straight months, the U.S. has added jobs. But as CNNMoney has pointed out before, the total job gains under Obama are far fewer than under Presidents Reagan and Clinton. The question is, how good are those jobs?
All the net job gains under President Obama have been in the private sector. Government jobs have actually declined by 341,000 since February 2009 (the first full month Obama was in office). That said, the government jobs that were lost were all at the state and local level.
The bottom line is: Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs, such as those in Silicon Valley and consulting. Others are the low-end jobs, toiling in stores and restaurants.
Brusuelas found that 47% of the jobs created since January 2010 (he argues that's when you start to see the effects of Obama's policies) have been in the high-wage category.
...and those Silicon Valley folks continue to lobby for increased immigration. Lots of articles out there about how a good chunk of those Silicon Valley jobs have gone to "foreign born" workers.
Good for them, I guess, but it suggests that whatever recovery in jobs we may behaving is not necessarily benefiting those who were working in decent paying jobs before the "great recession". So the idea that this jobs growth is "good news for main street" probably rings hollow to the folks on main street.
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11-05-2016, 12:18 PM
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Even so, beats being unemployed, and the money earned is just as fungible. It's not a contracted commitment like marriage, You can move on as opportunity presents.
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11-05-2016, 12:51 PM
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Even so, beats being unemployed, and the money earned is just as fungible. It's not a contracted commitment like marriage, You can move on as opportunity presents.
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$10 bucks an hour isn't as "fungible" as $25.
And the ability to "move on as opportunity presents" is a pretty sorry substitution for job security.
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11-05-2016, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
The raw job add numbers have never told the whole story.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news...s-under-obama/
The U.S. has had the longest streak of job growth under Obama. For 73 straight months, the U.S. has added jobs. But as CNNMoney has pointed out before, the total job gains under Obama are far fewer than under Presidents Reagan and Clinton. The question is, how good are those jobs?
All the net job gains under President Obama have been in the private sector. Government jobs have actually declined by 341,000 since February 2009 (the first full month Obama was in office). That said, the government jobs that were lost were all at the state and local level.
The bottom line is: Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs, such as those in Silicon Valley and consulting. Others are the low-end jobs, toiling in stores and restaurants.
Brusuelas found that 47% of the jobs created since January 2010 (he argues that's when you start to see the effects of Obama's policies) have been in the high-wage category.
...and those Silicon Valley folks continue to lobby for increased immigration. Lots of articles out there about how a good chunk of those Silicon Valley jobs have gone to "foreign born" workers.
Good for them, I guess, but it suggests that whatever recovery in jobs we may behaving is not necessarily benefiting those who were working in decent paying jobs before the "great recession". So the idea that this jobs growth is "good news for main street" probably rings hollow to the folks on main street.
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Meanwhile Republican'ts stymied any policies, such as infrastructure spending that would've helped. Lot's of good paying blue collar jobs in infrastructure but since it would've been a feather in this president's cap they refused to even give it a vote.
Face it Whell, your party of no puts itself ahead of what's good for the country. Every. Time.
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11-05-2016, 01:00 PM
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Persona non grata
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Meanwhile Republican'ts stymied any policies, such as infrastructure spending that would've helped. Lot's of good paying blue collar jobs in infrastructure but since it would've been a feather in this president's cap they refused to even give it a vote.
Face it Whell, your party of no puts itself ahead of what's good for the country. Every. Time.
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Yep. The Republicans give the Oligarchy 100% of what they want and the Democrats only give them 95%.
Go Dems!
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11-05-2016, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Meanwhile Republican'ts stymied any policies, such as infrastructure spending that would've helped. Lot's of good paying blue collar jobs in infrastructure but since it would've been a feather in this president's cap they refused to even give it a vote.
Face it Whell, your party of no puts itself ahead of what's good for the country. Every. Time.
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That's a fact, Jack.
Carl
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