Universal health Care, right or commodity?

[Pio1980]

Here's what an article in Forbes has to say on economics and health care.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...-than-the-u-s/

[Pio1980]

The author's suggested solution, opinions?
https://m.forbes.com/sites/theapothe...c=0&s=trending

[Pio1980]

I think that, regardless of methodology, basic health care should be a right, rather than a for-profit-first commodity. Employers needn't be part of providing it as a costly incentive, freeing them to simplify provision regulation requirements and bookkeeping, and reduce overhead costs. This wouldn't relieve them from providing an ethically safe regulated work situation for employees.

[68custom]

healthcare should be a right not a privilege. and while the ACA is sucky at least you get a very basic plan that will pay for maintenance items and many help out with the cost of RXs. for our family only the high deductible plans are in our budget. I always say that it is a great plan if you have cancer or chop off an arm, otherwise it sucks but it still much better than nothing. I volunteer at a Free clinic in a town near me and 95% of the patients we see are the working poor, most of the rest are homeless they would have no medical assistance if not for us. we also distribute many medications at our pharmacy (nothing mood altering)I appeal to drug makers on the patient behalf and often get them insulin products or asthma inhalers both of which are quite expensive.
as for the really sick once a month the board gets together to see how far they can get the money to spread and how many doctors and surgeons will work pro-bono. If the clinic does not have the resources then you have to wait, but we do the best we do with what we have.
Healthcare should be a right, let a naysayer experience one health crisis and watch him or her change their mind in this regard!

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The author's suggested solution, opinions?
https://m.forbes.com/sites/theapothe...c=0&s=trending

It is still a for profit system.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by merrylander

It is still a for profit system.

True, but I don't see any possibility of getting a not for profit health Care system instituted hete, as much as I'd like that.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

True, but I don't see any possibility of getting a not for profit health Care system instituted hete, as much as I'd like that.

The author is somewhat naive in believing that the health insurance companies will be free of greed. They all seem to operate on the theory of denial of all claims on the first pass hoping the people will give up. Hell even the government run EEOICP people automatically denied our claim on the first pass. They just did not know how stubborn I can be.

[JCricket]

Is food a right or a commodity? what should it be?

[Pio1980]

It might be said that availability of non-toxic food was considered a right under the FDA rules.
Conversely, access the Justicel system is considered a Constitutional right (ofttimes for some more than 'others'), but has evolved into a largely for-profit arrangement for everyone, regardless.
About food, a minimal degree of nutrition for those that cannot provide it for themselves is mainly a charitable effort in the US. Otherwise, there have been programs like SNAP to provide assistance.
Whatever the practical ethically​ sound response should be is open for debate, Ayn Rand and Henny Penny notwithstanding.

[JCricket]

My point, a person cannot survive without food, yet it is a commodity. Medical care is generally far less needed for individuals. You have the flu you want to see the doc, but will likely get better without it.

So, if food is a commodity, why should healthcare be a right? My opinion, both should be a commodity, but both should be regulated too. I am not sure how it would work though.