Cost of Health Care Continues to Rise - Page 12

whell · #1 10-01-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

Methinks there's a bunch of Kabuki dancing going on to set the stage for a Republican repeal of the PPACA. With antics such as this McDonalds thing, the public will get behind the future screwing the GOP will give them. BTW, I hope McDonalds' health plan is better than their hamburgers.

I don't really think there's a snowball's chance in hell of PPACA being appealed. There may be some threats to de-fund portions of it. However, the statutory requirements of the legislation aren't going to be impacted by lack of funds. They will become the law of the land and insurers will need to comply. Insurers already are aware of this. Thus, I think you'll see more carriers getting our of this business, leaving the market to the larger carriers, as Principal did by sending their customers over to UHC.

noonereal · #2 10-01-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

I don't really think there's a snowball's chance in hell of PPACA being appealed. There may be some threats to de-fund portions of it. However, the statutory requirements of the legislation aren't going to be impacted by lack of funds. They will become the law of the land and insurers will need to comply. Insurers already are aware of this. Thus, I think you'll see more carriers getting our of this business, leaving the market to the larger carriers, as Principal did by sending their customers over to UHC.

so what if some companies pull out? We have seen this in auto insurance with no negative effects. Other companies who are willing to operate at more competitive profits margins move in.
You keep posting this like we should give a fuc%.

whell · #3 10-01-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal

so what if some companies pull out? We have seen this in auto insurance with no negative effects. Other companies who are willing to operate at more competitive profits margins move in.
You keep posting this like we should give a fuc%.

I really don't care if you give a fuc% or not. And, to compare auto insurance to health insurance is absurd. Utilization of the two products and the markets they serve are night and day.

BlueStreak · #4 10-01-2010, 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=whell;41056]I don't really think there's a snowball's chance in hell of PPACA being appealed. [QUOTE]

I concur. Because if the GOP promises something, you can count on it either never happening or half-happening. Especially not if it involves hard work or making unpopular decisions. Like that stupid fence on the border, the symbol of everything the GOP is, in my mind. Half assed and ineffective.

They accuse the Dems of not "accomplishing anything". Really? What I see is the Dems trying to accomplishing lots, well---kinda/sorta. It's just that it's all stuff the GOP opposes. Well, "opposed after they once preposed" it. Like "amnesty", the "public option", "mandated insurance",----I'd go on, but you get the picture.

See, this is the U.S. Government, (And indeed the country as a whole is becoming just like it's government.), through the eyes of this Independent voter; We accomplish nothing. We just assemble committees of opposing viewpoints and argue endlessly. While the Communist Chinese are building a massive industrial base and a military to go along with it.....With the money they make off of our manufacturers in their country producing the cheap shit we demand.

We are our own enemy, indeed.

Dave

merrylander · #5 10-01-2010, 02:26 PM

Want to see rising costs, yesterday the specialist sent Florence for a blood test, one lonely test tube of blood. Today we got the statement from CareFirst (hows that, test was at about 3:00 PM, they billed Medicare and Carefirst, and they mailed the statement and we got it at 11:30 this AM.

While there I watched two clerks do little or nothing for half an hour.

The total for one simply blood test - $268.00, now Medicare disallowed some of that but come on all that much for a blood test? Big Pharma are not the only blood suckers.

Maybe it would be better if they coveted my ox and my ass and left my bank account alone. Greed is good.

finnbow · #6 10-01-2010, 02:51 PM

As I posted once before, we're not going to know the long term effects of the PPACA for quite a while. There will be some shake-up, restructuring, and rationalization as the insurance tries to sort it all out. However, gloom and doom forecasts made after rumblings by McDonalds or a few insurance carriers mean little at this point.

I will concede that the PPACA reminds me of the saying "A camel is a horse designed by a committee." The PPACA is certainly not an elegant solution (as single-payer would have been).

noonereal · #7 10-01-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

As I posted once before, we're not going to know the long term effects of the PPACA for quite a while. There will be some shake-up, restructuring, and rationalization as the insurance tries to sort it all out. However, gloom and doom forecasts made after rumblings by McDonalds or a few insurance carriers mean little at this point.

yes, I suppose you are right Pat. Sometimes the obvious does need to be stated.

d-ray657 · #8 10-01-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

As I posted once before, we're not going to know the long term effects of the PPACA for quite a while. There will be some shake-up, restructuring, and rationalization as the insurance tries to sort it all out. However, gloom and doom forecasts made after rumblings by McDonalds or a few insurance carriers mean little at this point.

I will concede that the PPACA reminds me of the saying "A camel is a horse designed by a committee." The PPACA is certainly not an elegant solution (as single-payer would have been).

Suggesting that the PPACA is going to have dire consequences, before much of it has even gone into effect, is like putting a tailback into the hall of fame after one or two seasons.

Regards,

D-Ray

whell · #9 10-01-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

Suggesting that the PPACA is going to have dire consequences, before much of it has even gone into effect, is like putting a tailback into the hall of fame after one or two seasons.

Regards,

D-Ray

Who said anything about "dire consequences?" I'm simply observing what is already taking place, and suggesting that these events are out of phase with the promises that the administration made regarding the PPACA.

BlueStreak · #10 10-01-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

Who said anything about "dire consequences?" I'm simply observing what is already taking place, and suggesting that these events are out of phase with the promises that the administration made regarding the PPACA.

"Dire consequences" is a phrase that suggests something "bad" will happen after a certain act has been committed, or in this context, policy has been implemented.

There. I said something about "dire consequences".

Dave