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10-28-2016, 10:36 AM
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“Lügenpresse”
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BERLIN — When a video of two Donald Trump supporters shouting “Lügenpresse” (lying press) started to circulate Sunday, viewers from Germany soon noted its explosive nature. The defamatory word was most frequently used in Nazi Germany. Today, it is a common slogan among those branded as representing the “ugly Germany”: members of xenophobic, right-wing groups.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...a-trump-rally/
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10-28-2016, 11:07 AM
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A Yuengling beer bottle?
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10-28-2016, 11:15 AM
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More hysteria.
The term predates the Nazi.
It really means "lying press".
What should be substantive: Is the press lying? Is the press in collusion?
Is the press suppressing news? Is the press hyping? etc.
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10-28-2016, 11:28 AM
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10-28-2016, 12:14 PM
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I knew all this. It doesn't change it's contemporary meaning or significance.
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10-28-2016, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
More hysteria.
The term predates the Nazi.
It really means "lying press".
What should be substantive: Is the press lying? Is the press in collusion?
Is the press suppressing news? Is the press hyping? etc.
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So, it's okay to use it then? The term is bereft of meaning beyond the literal?
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10-28-2016, 12:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
More hysteria.
The term predates the Nazi.
It really means "lying press".
What should be substantive: Is the press lying? Is the press in collusion?
Is the press suppressing news? Is the press hyping? etc.
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You're in denial.... Americans shouting a German word? Where do you think they got it? From pre-Nazi German commentary? Please.
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10-28-2016, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
You're in denial.... Americans shouting a German word? Where do you think they got it? From pre-Nazi German commentary? Please.
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He's just trying to protect the dog whistle.
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10-28-2016, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
He's just trying to protect the dog whistle.
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Dog whistle it is, and you may be right about what he's trying to do, don't really know motive....
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10-28-2016, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Dog whistle it is, and you may be right about what he's trying to do, don't really know motive....
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Given his oeuvre here, it's a reasonable inference.
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