Trump Disgraces America Every Day

[Chicks]

Three times an idiot. Five year olds know better than this moron.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politi...pse/index.html

[Chicks]

I salute the president!

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

It's one thing to observe like this:

* there were two sides at Charlottesville
* one were White Nationalists, KKK, and blatant Nazis, all of whom are racist, and most of whom frankly advocate violence and make a fetish of their capacity for it. These are attitudes of hateful thugs.
* one side was supported by a heavily armed paramilitary unit
* the other side was mostly people appalled by racism, hate and violence. These are attitudes of decent, praiseworthy people.
* a very few on the other side may have planned aggression against the rightists
* in the event, the rightists are seen engaging in violent aggression in widely-available videos
* in the event, a rightist individual executed a deadly attack by automobile.
* no evidence has surfaced of any comparable activity by the counter-protestors

It's quite another to boil that down to 'violence...on many sides.' It really bad if you happen to be the President, and you repeatedly indicate such false equivalence, and even praise some of the extreme rightists as 'fine people.' Fine people do not march with nazis chanting anti-Semitic slogans. This error on the President's part is a catastrophic moral failure, and leaves him irredeemably tainted with racism and nazism.

I already in the post above indicated why failure to recognize the President's moral culpability is evidence of right-wing nuttery.

1. Yes
2. Some were Neo Nazi/ Klan, many just didn't want the statues removed and were fine people
3. Both sides were armed
4. The other side was sent there by their handlers hoping for exactly what happened.
5. Fine people don't promote killing cops typically
6. The left with helmets and clubs are widely seen in videos
7. The moral failure of the left to recognize any view other than their own leaves them vulnerable to more catastrophes at the ballot box.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

1. Yes

2. Some were Neo Nazi/ Klan, many just didn't want the statues removed and were fine people

Such hypothetical people either realized their mistake and left, or else were fine people making a piss poor decision to march with nazis, for some reason.

3. Both sides were armed

You got video of leftists with assault rifles with 30-round mags?

4. The other side was sent there by their handlers hoping for exactly what happened.

Pure reich-wing propaganda.

5. Fine people don't promote killing cops typically

Who are you accusing of promoting killing cops? Serious charges like that require clear evidence.

6. The left with helmets and clubs are widely seen in videos

Sure. You got video of them attacking anyone?

7. The moral failure of the left to recognize any view other than their own leaves them vulnerable to more catastrophes at the ballot box.

Time for a movie clip! It's very short, and it's so perfect....

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/cfd12a6...Vx7scftu-.copy

[Chicks]

Mexico sends Trump down payment for The Wall.

[Chicks]

The markets start to lose faith in Trump. Stupid of them to have had any faith in the incompetent fool to begin with.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/21/demi...-in-trump.html

[ZeroJunk]

Who are you accusing of promoting killing cops? Serious charges like that require clear evidence.

Black Lives Matter. Seems like there were quite a few with those shirts in the crowd. And, no I didn't not see any guns pulled by either side, but both sides had signs that were used as clubs which is seen in videos that were not picked through by the left wing media.


I am curious about this order for the police to stand down ?

Whose idea was that, and why ?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Black Lives Matter. Seems like there were quite a few with those shirts in the crowd. And, no I didn't not see any guns pulled by either side, but both sides had signs that were used as clubs which is seen in videos that were not picked through by the left wing media.


I am curious about this order for the police to stand down ?

Whose idea was that, and why ?

BLM is not a church with a catechism. Someone wearing a shirt is not remotely close to 'clear evidence.' Unless you have individuals who really made truly unjustifiable threatening statements, showing up on the ground in Charleston, you have nothing.

I did see gun pulled by one side (ABC News report): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0A8y6S6JGs

I'd like more info about the police too. In the famous Vice report there's a sequence where a fellow with a militia-look is shown purportedly talking to a police contact, threatening to go downtown with 200 armed men. I don't believe he had 200 armed men, but it's not an incredible threat. I wonder if he really was talking to the police, or just faking it for the camera. If he did have contact, I'd like to know who talked to him, what was said on the police side, and if there were other police negotiations with the White Nationalists.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Black Lives Matter. Seems like there were quite a few with those shirts in the crowd. And, no I didn't not see any guns pulled by either side, but both sides had signs that were used as clubs which is seen in videos that were not picked through by the left wing media.


I am curious about this order for the police to stand down ?

Whose idea was that, and why ?

BLM, afaik, isn't anti-cop, tho some may be actively hostile to adversarial policing. "They" appear to me to be about law enforcement being as accountable as those they are supposed to "serve and protect". The BLM anti cop meme is rightist authoritarian nonsense.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

BLM, afaik, isn't anti-cop, tho some may be actively hostile to adversarial policing. "They" appear to me to be about law enforcement being as accountable as those they are supposed to "serve and protect". The BLM anti cop meme is rightist authoritarian nonsense.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

If that is the case then they should quiet down those in the group chanting to that affect.