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Old 11-10-2018, 12:48 AM
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I used to listen to The Hour of the Time on pre-internet short wave in the 1990s for his take on the "Illuminati" conspiracy theory nonsense. M. W. Cooper (no relation, afaik) was a conspiracy theory coocoobird par excellence. James "Bo" Grites, a fellow conspiracy theorist who fell out with him referred to his book as "Behold, a Pail of Horseshit".
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:24 AM
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No, not weak, manipulated. The right wing elite figured out that guns, made into right wing cultural symbols, would be a useful mobilizing factor, and not dangerous to them. There's probably a Rand study on it dating back to 1966 or so.

You want to see gun control in a big hurry? Guess what would happen if someone shot up one of the top prep schools. *

* Thought experiment only, not advocacy!
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Old 11-10-2018, 09:02 AM
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We all know just where the debate would be going if the majority group buying guns and openly carrying were OTW!

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Old 11-10-2018, 09:37 AM
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No debate, just war. Recall what happened to the Black Panthers, and to Move.
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We all know just where the debate would be going if the majority group buying guns and openly carrying were OTW!

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I've seen at least one black man oc in a restaurant I frequent in Oxford, Al. A unicorn of sorts, yet home defense by firearm was the only defense persons of color had, and still have in some places tho it doesn't necessarily come out well, may discourage self entitled peckerwoods from endulging their self entitlement.
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My point was a broad one, implying that if OTW's were to march with arms shouting support for 2nd amendment rights. Acting like the White Nationalists I don't think it they would be looked at the same way.
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My point was a broad one, implying that if OTW's were to march with arms shouting support for 2nd amendment rights. Acting like the White Nationalists I don't think it they would be looked at the same way.
You are, of course, correct. Back in the '60's, white folks freaked out over pictures of armed Black Panthers and convinced Gov. Ronald Reagan to pass strict gun controls in California.

Throughout the late 1960s, the militant black nationalist group used their understanding of the finer details of California’s gun laws to underscore their political statements about the subjugation of African-Americans. In 1967, 30 members of the Black Panthers protested on the steps of the California statehouse armed with .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns and .45-caliber pistols and announced, “The time has come for black people to arm themselves.”

The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions...

In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew.


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The purpose of the right to keep and bear arms is elucidated in the first part of the second amendment.
Minus that, what exactly are "second amendment rights"?
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NRA draws fire after saying doctors should 'stay in their lane'

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Food for thought.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...see-ncna934641
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