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12-03-2010, 12:58 AM
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But, I thought your position was that people need to be responsible for their own actions. If a practitioner is negligent and someone is disabled or is required to have lifetime medical care, or dies, should that outcome be borne by the injured person, by the one causing the harm, or by the rest of society through our taxes? If people making money off of tort cases are making too much, isn't the market going to take care of that - or do we need government to get in the middle of it all?
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A doctor with a small family practice and a handfull of employees is a "small businessman". And as I am certain, you are well aware the small businessman is second only to the Holy Lamb of God himself. When it comes to the much persecuted, abused and downtrodden small businessman, we must bear all of his burdens and give him whatever he demands. If he should run over your grandmother with his van full of plumbing implements while rushing to unclog someones toilet, your Grandma should then be cited and jailed for "Impeding Business".
Come on, Don. Get with it. We're trying to create a "business friendly culture" here.
Dave
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12-03-2010, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
A doctor with a small family practice and a handfull of employees is a "small businessman". And as I am certain, you are well aware the small businessman is second only to the Holy Lamb of God himself. When it comes to the much persecuted, abused and downtrodden small businessman, we must bear all of his burdens and give him whatever he demands. If he should run over your grandmother with his van full of plumbing implements while rushing to unclog someones toilet, your Grandma should then be cited and jailed for "Impeding Business".
Come on, Don. Get with it. We're trying to create a "business friendly culture" here.
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But honest, Dave, I don't even own a pair of tasseled loafers. I've never chased an ambulance, but I have seen people whose condition is worsened, sometimes beyond repair by the whores who work for worker's comp clinics. I've seen people whose bodies have been worn out by the time they are fifty.
I do have one workers comp case that has been pending for over 12 years. The worker had one ankle crushed, the other ankle broken and a compound fracture of his leg. He had a baseball-sized lump of skin on his leg where the bone had punctured it. He has had surgery after surgery and deep seated infections. He has had one ankle fused, but he has continued to work in a job that requires him to walk. As a result of his disrupted gait, he is awaiting knee replacement. And this malingerer, who deals with pain as an every day fact of life, has scheduled his surgery for a time that is less disruptive of his job.
I haven't made a dime off of his case, and we probably have a few grand invested in it. But you know what? I'm tickled pink. Because he has continued to work, we have been able to keep his case open and he has continued to get the treatment he needs for the ongoing effects of this surgery. None of this would be available, however, if the meddling government hadn't made employers maintain insurance to provide medical treatment and pay benefits to workers who have been injured in their jobs. For him to keep working after all he has gone through - this guy is my hero.
Regards,
D-Ray
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12-03-2010, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
But honest, Dave, I don't even own a pair of tasseled loafers. I've never chased an ambulance, but I have seen people whose condition is worsened, sometimes beyond repair by the whores who work for worker's comp clinics. I've seen people whose bodies have been worn out by the time they are fifty.
I do have one workers comp case that has been pending for over 12 years. The worker had one ankle crushed, the other ankle broken and a compound fracture of his leg. He had a baseball-sized lump of skin on his leg where the bone had punctured it. He has had surgery after surgery and deep seated infections. He has had one ankle fused, but he has continued to work in a job that requires him to walk. As a result of his disrupted gait, he is awaiting knee replacement. And this malingerer, who deals with pain as an every day fact of life, has scheduled his surgery for a time that is less disruptive of his job.
I haven't made a dime off of his case, and we probably have a few grand invested in it. But you know what? I'm tickled pink. Because he has continued to work, we have been able to keep his case open and he has continued to get the treatment he needs for the ongoing effects of this surgery. None of this would be available, however, if the meddling government hadn't made employers maintain insurance to provide medical treatment and pay benefits to workers who have been injured in their jobs. For him to keep working after all he has gone through - this guy is my hero.
Regards,
D-Ray
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Don't tell me you wear those little booties with zippers on the sides. Or do you show up in court wearing shower clogs?
Footwear aside, I also take a dim view of work comp. Woe is you (and your employee) should you ever file a claim, no matter how small.
Chas
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12-03-2010, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
But honest, Dave, I don't even own a pair of tasseled loafers. I've never chased an ambulance, but I have seen people whose condition is worsened, sometimes beyond repair by the whores who work for worker's comp clinics. I've seen people whose bodies have been worn out by the time they are fifty.
I do have one workers comp case that has been pending for over 12 years. The worker had one ankle crushed, the other ankle broken and a compound fracture of his leg. He had a baseball-sized lump of skin on his leg where the bone had punctured it. He has had surgery after surgery and deep seated infections. He has had one ankle fused, but he has continued to work in a job that requires him to walk. As a result of his disrupted gait, he is awaiting knee replacement. And this malingerer, who deals with pain as an every day fact of life, has scheduled his surgery for a time that is less disruptive of his job.
I haven't made a dime off of his case, and we probably have a few grand invested in it. But you know what? I'm tickled pink. Because he has continued to work, we have been able to keep his case open and he has continued to get the treatment he needs for the ongoing effects of this surgery. None of this would be available, however, if the meddling government hadn't made employers maintain insurance to provide medical treatment and pay benefits to workers who have been injured in their jobs. For him to keep working after all he has gone through - this guy is my hero.
Regards,
D-Ray
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Awesome story, Don. I love things like this. Keep up the good work, counsellor.
Dave
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12-03-2010, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
A doctor with a small family practice and a handfull of employees is a "small businessman". And as I am certain, you are well aware the small businessman is second only to the Holy Lamb of God himself. When it comes to the much persecuted, abused and downtrodden small businessman, we must bear all of his burdens and give him whatever he demands. If he should run over your grandmother with his van full of plumbing implements while rushing to unclog someones toilet, your Grandma should then be cited and jailed for "Impeding Business".
Come on, Don. Get with it. We're trying to create a "business friendly culture" here.
Dave
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Why thank you Blue, I didn't realize that I was held in such high esteem!!!
Realizing that my status has been upgraded to that of a minor deity, along with all of the "help" I'm receiving from the business friendly government, perhaps now I can quit contemplating suicide.
It's great to be King!!!
And, once the business friendly government runs your evil employer offshore with regulations, mandates, and taxes, you too will be able to experience the joys of self employment.
Walk a mile in my shoes, brother.
Chas
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12-03-2010, 06:39 AM
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And, once the business friendly government runs your evil employer offshore with regulations, mandates, and taxes, you too will be able to experience the joys of self employment.
Walk a mile in my shoes, brother.
Chas
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I don't know Chas, I have found self employment extremely lucrative, a tax advantage in spite of FICA and extremely rewarding. After having spent 20 years working for others I guess I appreciate self employment more than most folks.
I would rather work 70 hours a week for myself than 25 for someone. In fact when I hear associates complaining I just shake my head knowing that they have no clue how well they have it.
I find the corporate model extremely unhealthy for the average Joe.
The government is you and I, a corporation that you work for or deal with is them. You have no say and you will be taken advantage of. This is not true of government.
I know I am all over the place on this post but I guess my point is appreciate what you have. I'd rather run your business than work Dave's job any day. Not because it is easier or hardier or anything like that but because you are free. There is not much freedom when you work for a corp and that is unnatural and unhealthy to our species.
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12-03-2010, 12:59 PM
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Realizing that my status has been upgraded to that of a minor deity, along with all of the "help" I'm receiving from the business friendly government, perhaps now I can quit contemplating suicide.
Chas
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Really, I have no problem with small businessmen, such as yourself, Chas. I respect anyone who gets up and does his bit to keep things moving every day. It's just the way politicians will lionize a specific group, just to get votes that bugs me. Even back in the day when it was the Dems telling us that the "workin' man" was the center of the universe and I was a union man. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. It's pandering is what it is, and nothing more. Our society needs everyone who makes a positive contribution, no matter how great or small.
And I pray you are joking about suicide.
Please don't.
Dave
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12-03-2010, 09:02 AM
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However that is not the GOPs problem.
Pete
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12-03-2010, 10:37 AM
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However that is not the GOPs problem.
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No Pete, it is everyone's problem. When the great majority of legislation is blocked purely to make political points - and this includes legislation that arises from GOP ideas - the government is not functioning as it should. Do you think the founders envisioned that it would take a super-majority to get anything done?
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D-Ray
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12-03-2010, 11:53 AM
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However that is not the GOPs problem.
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Got that right, it's the GOP that is the problem.
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