My fellow conservatives...

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by merrylander

As long as they don't take the country down with them.

Unfortunately, you know they will. The upper classes are set for life, so nothing else matters to them.

[bobabode]

The 'Monkey Wrench' faction in the House will be going full tilt boogie for the next two years and their poison pill bills will languish in that old 'tea cooling saucer' in the Senate only to die a miserable and lonely death at the end of the legislative session, old Harry will see to that.

Wailing and impotent gnashing of teeth will ensue from the 'baggers while Cruz grins like a egg faced possum in the back of the henhouse.

Most if not all of that 'red meat' nonsense will never see the President's desk for a veto.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by bobabode

The 'Monkey Wrench' faction in the House will be going full tilt boogie for the next two years and their poison pill bills will languish in that old 'tea cooling saucer' in the Senate only to die a miserable and lonely death at the end of the legislative session, old Harry will see to that.

Wailing and impotent gnashing of teeth will ensue from the 'baggers while Cruz grins like a egg faced possum in the back of the henhouse.

Most if not all of that 'red meat' nonsense will never see the President's desk for a veto.

Heh..in other words, turnabout is fair play?

[nailer]

Originally Posted by finnbow

History shows that some of the most important advances in our country have occurred with the President and Congress (both houses) split between parties.

You've piqued my curiosity and would appreciate the sharing a few examples. Truly.

[bobabode]

LBJ and the Voting Rights Act comes to mind despite the rulings from presently righty SCOTUS. Some serious arm twisting and horse trading went on there.

edit- Ooops, Dem majorities in both houses. Still, the filibuster threat was neutralized by some serious arm twisting.

Thanks for the PM Nailer. I was only 8 years old at the time.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by nailer

You've piqued my curiosity and would appreciate the sharing a few examples. Truly.

EPA and OSHA were passed by Nixon and a Democratic Congress. Welfare reform and a balanced budget resulted from Clinton and a GOP Congress.

http://yalepress.yale.edu/reviews.as...=9780300048353

Stocks also do better under a divided government.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/...blican-victory

I think that it boils down to us doing less stupid, one-sided partisan shit under a divided government.

OTOH, the complete and utter idiocy/nihilism of the Teabaggers may challenge these findings.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

History shows that some of the most important advances in our country have occurred with the President and Congress (both houses) split between parties. If they get both houses, the GOP will be forced to show that they can actually govern. Otherwise, 2016 will be brutal for them (it may anyway because far more GOP Senate seats than Dem seats are in play in 2016).

It will be interesting to see the (relatively) moderate Republicans (McConnell, Boehner) who know this fighting against the 'Bagger faction who have made disagreeing with Obama an article of faith. This election could prove to be a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP if they don't get their governance shit together.

Right. Now they have to prove that what they have to offer is actually worth something. Like they did with majorities in house senate, and the fool-in-chief behind the oval office desk in 2000 - '06.

How'd that work out?

Dave

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Right. Now they have to prove that what they have to offer is actually worth something. Like they did with majorities in house senate, and the fool-in-chief behind the oval office desk in 2000 - '06.

How'd that work out?

Dave

Because so many have forgotten:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_..._November_2008

[piece-itpete]

It'll be the intransient Dems not helping, if turnabout is indeed fair play

And Obama will have to actually make public decisions, veto or not veto. This could hurt (or help) Hillary as well.

Pete

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

It'll be the intransient Dems not helping, if turnabout is indeed fair play

And Obama will have to actually make public decisions, veto or not veto. This could hurt (or help) Hillary as well.

Pete

It'll will indeed be funny and ironic hearing McConnell whining about Dem filibusters.