Russian sanctions.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

That means that if there is effective control and will they can easier sustain
assault on the economy.

Currency devaluation is disastrous if you are extremely import dependent.
Russia is huge. This is a chance for the Russians to develop internally.

Since the EU isn't paying Gazprom what they owe anyway what does Russia have to lose but cutting them off.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Samm

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...-reserves.html
We are no longer the valuable consumer we once were. It has continued to go down steeply into 2014 but I don't have the updated chart on file.

Maybe so, but our market is still a huge one for China.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I'd say "as threatened by the Russians" (and passed along by willing accomplices like S(h)amm). I think any such effort by the Russians would have far greater negative impacts upon their economy than ours or the world's in general. Their economy and their currency are both basket cases. That's why they (and their shills) are making such threats. It's all they got.

It's often said that they're a Third World economy with a First World army.

I think their having a conversation without you.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

By definition you fall to this category as well.

Shill

My understanding of a "shill" is someone who is an accomplice in a scam perpetrated on others. I don't really see what they think I have to gain by posting the truth so I have to conclude that they are confused about the definition of what a "shill" actually is. Not really very surprising though.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Maybe so, but our market is still a huge one for China.

They have replaced our importing with many others and are actually pretty well positioned to continue without us.
For example
http://thebricspost.com/chinas-trade.../#.UxXiMbmYbIU
I also remember reading that they had cornered exports to some "corridor" and I was impressed that it amounted to over 30% of the world population but I cant find that article at the moment. Im in and out of here getting ready for my day.

[Samm]

You might find this article interesting also Don.
http://thebricspost.com/china-asean-.../#.UxXkIbmYbIU

[Dondilion]

In all of this we are not noticing another aspect.

The Europeans refused to pay the tab the former Ukraine government demanded.

The Russians were willing to do so but then everything fell apart.

Now that Kerry is coming to Kiev are we the ones going to take care
of the bill?

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Samm

My understanding of a "shill" is someone who is an accomplice in a scam perpetrated on others. I don't really see what they think I have to gain by posting the truth so I have to conclude that they are confused about the definition of what a "shill" actually is. Not really very surprising though.

A person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest:

You see this site pedals a far left agenda and ideology by any means necessary.
Spreading propaganda lies and defaming others.

They are the Shills

When another view is presented they try to defame that individual as being the Shill.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

In all of this we are not noticing another aspect.

The Europeans refused to pay the tab the former Ukraine government demanded.

The Russians were willing to do so but then everything fell apart.

Now that Kerry is coming to Kiev are we the ones going to take care
of the bill?

We already have negotiated that though the IMF. Bail-out

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

A person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest:

You see this site pedals a far left agenda and ideology by any means necessary.
Spreading propaganda lies and defaming others.

They are the Shills

When another view is presented they try to defame that individual as being the Shill.

I think that you haven't fully thought through application of the definition - even to the facts as you see them. You have not identified the financial interest in those whose ideology is different from yours. What you see as the facts might qualify as partisanship, or even propaganda, but in the absence of a financial motive, what you have described is not shilling.

Regards,

D-Ray