Current destabilization of society in the USA.

[Pio1980]

Maybe depends on whether there is trust for fair lawful treatment, or not.
Maybe there is a lack of trust because of a trend of unfair treatment. Would you evade and resist arrest if being abused in custody was a certainty regardless of cooperation?

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Maybe depends on whether there is trust for fair lawful treatment, or not.
Maybe there is a lack of trust because of a trend of unfair treatment. Would you evade and resist arrest if being abused in custody was a certainty regardless of cooperation?

Basically that's what happened in the Freddy Gray case. What was he guilty of? He ran. He saw a cop that hassled him before, figured he'd do it again and he ran. Only he got caught searched and arrested for possession of a pocket knife. He did not resist but the boys in blue decided to "punish" him anyway. From a witness on the scene "One officer has a knee on Gray's neck, another was bending his legs backward in a "leg lace" move" which they held until the wagon arrived. An investigation revealed a history of such behavior that resulted in a consent decree.

[BigElCat]

The cops know about the 'priors' before they go in to make an arrest.

In some cases, it's a personal grudge, pay back. Race can be factor in this, too.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The cops know about the 'priors' before they go in to make an arrest.

In some cases, it's a personal grudge, pay back. Race can be factor in this, too.

Yep. And since he died we will find all that out in court.

And it is important to know what you are getting into when attempting to subdue a person, unless you just pray that they had a "come to Jesus" moment since their last altercation.

[BigElCat]

Then there's the old country doctors.

Payment could have been a meal.

My great-grandmother died, because she didn't want to spend $2K on a medical express train to an operating room.

The family had $2K in 1920, but that was all they had. She saved the money for her children.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Then there's the old country doctors.

Payment could have been a meal.

My great-grandmother died, because she didn't want to spend $2K on a medical express train to an operating room.

The family had $2K in 1920, but that was all they had. She saved the money for her children.

That's incredibly tragic decision she had to make. We really need a version of National Health where you don't have to crawl out on to the ice because you got ill. Damn...

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by bobabode

That's incredibly tragic decision she had to make. We really need a version of National Health where you don't have to crawl out on to the ice because you got ill. Damn...

She had a rupture appendix, and a choice.

Now I'm going perish the same way. My neck injury was not work related. I'm going to get fired, at age 56, with a bad neck.

Good luck to me, with 50 million other people looking for work. I won't qualify for disability, because the problem could be corrected, if I had the resources.

Catch 22.

I'll have to research Josie Wells. Thought that was fiction.

Y'all may be seeing me on national news before I'm dead.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

She had a rupture appendix, and a choice.

Now I'm going perish the same way. My neck injury was not work related. I'm going to get fired, at age 56, with a bad neck.

Good luck to me, with 50 million other people looking for work. I won't qualify for disability, because the problem could be corrected, if I had the resources.

Catch 22.

I'll have to research Josie Wells. Thought that was fiction.

Y'all may be seeing me on national news before I'm dead.

That bites. Destroyed my back at L4 and L5 working in the trades. The surgeon wants to install some stainless hardware in there. If I were you I'd find an attorney to get the disability you are due. Your state government will probably be no help, sorry to say.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

She had a rupture appendix, and a choice.

Now I'm going perish the same way. My neck injury was not work related. I'm going to get fired, at age 56, with a bad neck.

Good luck to me, with 50 million other people looking for work. I won't qualify for disability, because the problem could be corrected, if I had the resources.

Catch 22.

I'll have to research Josie Wells. Thought that was fiction.

Y'all may be seeing me on national news before I'm dead.

Leaving me to guess on your status on insurance?

Hi deductible?

I get it done somehow.
You are to young to try and soldier on in pain.

In this country it should not be like winning the lottery on having good insurance. Those that have it V those who don't.....

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Leaving me to guess on your status on insurance?

Hi deductible?

I get it done somehow.
You are to young to try and soldier on in pain.

In this country it should not be like winning the lottery on having good insurance. Those that have it V those who don't.....

It's not over yet.

I have enough money in the 401 to survive for a year.

Still have insurance as of now. Highest deductible and it's almost paid.

The chiropractor messed me up. I love the guy, and I have no proof he did it. I went along with what he was doing. Damn neck traction machine jacked me up. Can't sue him because the MRI came after the fact. And because I consented.