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10-26-2011, 03:27 PM
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Laugh all you want Krazy, but they have done it before, so why not now?
Here's a list of proven and declassified information..
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59987/pg1
They covered Vietnam in Agent Orange.. and my father and some friends have had issues because of it....
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Look:
(1) jet engine makes exhaust
(2) exhaust is hot
(3) hot exhaust mixes with cold air in stratosphere
(4) condensation is formed
I am sorry to hear about your father and his friends, I wish them well That is unfortunate what happened to them. The mass spraying in Vietnam, is akin to crop dusting, not the claimed "chemtrails".
There is no such thing as "chemtrails", the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy. Santa Claus, however, is a different matter entirely
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10-26-2011, 03:37 PM
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There is no such thing as "chemtrails", the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy. Santa Claus, however, is a different matter entirely
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You left out the Laffer Curve.
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10-26-2011, 03:48 PM
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I'm not saying every time I see a plane and a contrail they are spraying. I'd bet less than .01% of the trails in the sky are chem and not con.. but you better believe it is being done. It has been done, and they have tested seeding clouds to alter the weather.
Not as much as some of the real baty conspiricy theorists would like to belive and wish, but is there a chance and a small amount of evidence they are spraying and testing.. you're damn right there is... if you don't belive there is, then you're not thinking with a very open mind and you must believe big brother is your true lover..
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10-26-2011, 04:08 PM
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I'm not saying every time I see a plane and a contrail they are spraying. I'd bet less than .01% of the trails in the sky are chem and not con.. but you better believe it is being done. It has been done, and they have tested seeding clouds to alter the weather.
Not as much as some of the real baty conspiricy theorists would like to belive and wish, but is there a chance and a small amount of evidence they are spraying and testing.. you're damn right there is... if you don't belive there is, then you're not thinking with a very open mind and you must believe big brother is your true lover..
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Spraying? Spraying what? Who is "they"? Why are they spraying? Where is this "spraying" supposedly coming from? Which aircraft? When did these "chemtrails" supposedly first appear?
There is no evidence for "chemtrails". What possible motivation would there be to "spray" these things? Do you think that "they" are doing it to alter our DNA to make the world more compliant for the NWO or an extraterrestrial invasion, or both?
What do you mean with: "You must believe big brother is your true lover."
Were the Saturn-Apollo flights to the Moon faked?
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10-26-2011, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by simi
I'm not saying every time I see a plane and a contrail they are spraying. I'd bet less than .01% of the trails in the sky are chem and not con.. but you better believe it is being done. It has been done, and they have tested seeding clouds to alter the weather.
Not as much as some of the real baty conspiricy theorists would like to belive and wish, but is there a chance and a small amount of evidence they are spraying and testing.. you're damn right there is... if you don't belive there is, then you're not thinking with a very open mind and you must believe big brother is your true lover..
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I'm with SIMI on this one. It's evident in the countryside more so than cities.
Maybe people who believe... are more tuned-in to nature. Like the growing absence of toads and bees. I believe.
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10-26-2011, 05:16 PM
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Have you not looked at any of the links I've posted?
They, being scientific researchers and also the government...
Do I believe they are spraying us with mind or DNA altering drugs? NO, but, anything is possible
Do I believe we are being used as test subjects with inert or marking kinds of chemicals? Possibly. We have been before.
Do I believe they are researching weather and geoengineering along with bioengineering theories? Most certainly.
Do I believe they have thought about using this to kill, harm, or alter human populations, I'd be a fool if I didn't believe it. It's been proven they have done the research before with these exact things in mind.
Do I believe they are doing it with the thought of geo and bio warfare in mind, Absolutely.
I've read about this stuff for years. I've given you some links to research some of the
information and data that is out there. I am not a fanatic about it, but I inform myself and base my conclusions and decisions the best I can and try to pick the facts from the fiction.
I'm not a tin foil hat wearing fanatic, but I am not dumb and naive about these things like the government would hope their people are. They got caught on this before, and I know they wouldn't quit their research because of it.
Like I said, I've given you some fairly good links to read and start forming your own conclusions and a place to start to allow you to search for pieces of it you find important to trying to find the truth. If you believe there is no such thing as a chem-trail made up of any substance other than water vapor, then you should just go back and plant your head in the sand and forget you've ever heard about it.
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10-26-2011, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by simi
Have you not looked at any of the links I've posted?
They, being scientific researchers and also the government...
Do I believe they are spraying us with mind or DNA altering drugs? NO, but, anything is possible
Do I believe we are being used as test subjects with inert or marking kinds of chemicals? Possibly. We have been before.
Do I believe they are researching weather and geoengineering along with bioengineering theories? Most certainly.
Do I believe they have thought about using this to kill, harm, or alter human populations, I'd be a fool if I didn't believe it. It's been proven they have done the research before with these exact things in mind.
Do I believe they are doing it with the thought of geo and bio warfare in mind, Absolutely.
I've read about this stuff for years. I've given you some links to research some of the
information and data that is out there. I am not a fanatic about it, but I inform myself and base my conclusions and decisions the best I can and try to pick the facts from the fiction.
I'm not a tin foil hat wearing fanatic, but I am not dumb and naive about these things like the government would hope their people are. They got caught on this before, and I know they wouldn't quit their research because of it.
Like I said, I've given you some fairly good links to read and start forming your own conclusions and a place to start to allow you to search for pieces of it you find important to trying to find the truth. If you believe there is no such thing as a chem-trail made up of any substance other than water vapor, then you should just go back and plant your head in the sand and forget you've ever heard about it.
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I'm with Simi on this one. There is a history of this behavior, namely, the atomic tests on soldiers, the LSD experiments, and the biological aerosol dispersant tests on San Francisco. These are all well known events that occurred courtesy of our ever vigilant government. I would suspect that the prospect of such experiments would increase as the potential use of those agents increases. That is precisely what we have now with the terror threat.
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10-26-2011, 06:09 PM
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Some time ago I read an article about our water supply that stuck with me.
Having to do with birth control pills taken by women and entering the water supply via sewage. That in fact...most meds are not cleared from our drinking water.
Hormones in our drinking water??? If true... we could all go the other way...if you know what I mean. Our health department has a collecting day for out dated meds and specifically states NOT to flush them.
While this may sound crazy to some of you...think again. Who knew medical patches could dispense meds through the skin??? Just saying...
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10-26-2011, 06:09 PM
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Ya know.. I'd be even more worried if my government wasn't doing the research and testing... however, I'm not happy they did use toxic chemicals and radiation on the US population before without our best interests in mind.
If there is a way the government can think of creating mass extinction, I can promise you they've through of it, tested it, and kept it all quiet.
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10-26-2011, 06:11 PM
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They contantly test water at water treatment plants for THC, Cocaine, meth, and many other illegal drugs to get a grasp on how high the usage is in a particular area.. no, that stuff isn't all cleaned out before it makes it back to our taps either.
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