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07-06-2012, 04:22 PM
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Oh, I dunno, about the same as the difference between slander and libel, I guess.
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Both fall under the label of defamation. Generally Libel is a written defamatory statement, where slander is verbal.
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07-06-2012, 04:23 PM
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In this case, D-Ray, does there need to be a complainant in order for local law enforcement to make an arrest?
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07-06-2012, 04:26 PM
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OOPS! I see Don beat me to it.
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Originally Posted by barbara
I was thinking this sounded like blackmail..... But then others brought up extortion. What's the difference between blackmail and extortion?
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Oh, I dunno, about the same as the difference between slander and libel, I guess.
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Okay, I'm going to try. I think blackmail and extortion both involve a threat to do harm to a person (or some other entity like a business) unless some sort of payment is made. With blackmail the action would involve revealing some sort of compromising information that was potentially harmful to the person. With extortion it might involve something like a threat to burn down a business or do some sort of harm to the person or business unrelated to any sort of embarrassing information.
If I'm right, blackmail may be a better description of what this creep was doing.
John
Last edited by Boreas; 07-06-2012 at 04:32 PM.
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07-06-2012, 04:26 PM
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That model seems like a good way to get dead quick. I seem to recall law enforcement doing something similar with the customers of prostitutes. Here we have the registered sex offender site. It is quite amazing the number of people on the site, however, whether or not the infomation is useful is debatable IMHO.
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Not to carry on an ethnic stereotype, but he would have to think twice before sending one of his letters to someone with an Italian sounding name. Capiche?
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07-06-2012, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
21-6501. Extortion.
(a) Extortion is:
(1) Intentionally and wrongfully demanding, soliciting or receiving
anything of value from the owner, proprietor or other person having a
financial interest in a business; and
(2) by means of either a threat, express or implied, or a promise,
express or implied, that the person so demanding, soliciting or receiving
such thing of value will:
(A) Cause the competition of the person from whom the payment is
demanded, solicited or received to be diminished or eliminated;
(B) cause the price of goods or services purchased or sold in the
business to be increased, decreased or maintained at a stated level; or
(C) protect the property used in the business or the person or family of
the owner, proprietor or other interested person from injury by violence or
other unlawful means.
21-5428a. Blackmail.
(a) Blackmail is intentionally gaining or attempting to gain anything of
value or compelling or attempting to compel another to act against such
person's will, by threatening to communicate accusations or statements,
about any person that would subject such person or any other person to
public ridicule, contempt or degradation.
Well, according to the Kansas definitions, you are correct, Barb. It is blackmail rather than extortion.
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Thank you for the explanation.
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07-06-2012, 04:29 PM
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In this case, D-Ray, does there need to be a complainant in order for local law enforcement to make an arrest?
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Not sure, but there are plenty available.
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07-06-2012, 04:52 PM
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What's his name?
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
So, you move to another town and set up another site under a different name.
Legal action is far more effective than "the market" in punishing scumbags, IMHO.
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You see, I believe the only people who push the notion that "the market" will take care of shysters and thieves.....are either pie-eyed fairytale believing fools, or the shysters and thieves themselves. Because they know damn well it doesn't really work that way.
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