The Obama Hate Mongers At Work

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bhunter

The 60s were replete with all kinds of violence and threats. We have not reached that level today.

You're still off the subject but what the hell! Here goes!

Are you old enough to have been active in the anti-war movement in the '60s and '70s? If so, were you active? If not, then I submit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I am old enough and I was involved. I can tell you that the talk of violence was almost entirely the work of agents provocateur working for local, state and federal law enforcement under COINTELPRO. Most of the violent acts perpetrated by anti-war groups were inspired by and in some cases perpetrated by these agents.

John

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah, you must have tried really hard too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporte...t_Barack_Obama

John

How many of those listed were convicted? Hell, that list even includes Ted Nugent.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Boreas

You're still off the subject but what the hell! Here goes!

Are you old enough to have been active in the anti-war movement in the '60s and '70s? If so, were you active? If not, then I submit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

What makes you think I'm only referring to left violence?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bhunter

How many of those listed were convicted?

Don't you know? I was hoping you'd read it.

Hell, that list even includes Ted Nugent.

Yes, but, as the entry says, he was simply interviewed and no further action was taken. In the other cases a criminal investigation was undertaken and in some of them the suspects were held in custody.

John

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Don't you know? I was hoping you'd read it.



Yes, but, as the entry says, he was simply interviewed and no further action was taken. In the other cases a criminal investigation was undertaken and in some of them the suspects were held in custody.

John

Which brings me to why were the threats against Bush as demonstrated by media photos and newscasts of protesters never investigated. I think it would be reasonable that there were so many that following up on each and every threat would be a waste of time.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Obama attempts to play group against group which he carves out for political purposes. You need to study how community organizers function. What do you think they organize, a potluck dinner? No, they find cleavages between or within groups and use that as a wedge to garner political power by playing group against group.

Wow Bh that's all doublespeak. To organize means to bring together, in every dictionary that I have read. You're carrying cynicism to a new level in this.
Oh, I get it now - you mean driving a wedge between labor and corporations /government?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Which brings me to why were the threats against Bush as demonstrated by media photos and newscasts of protesters never investigated. I think it would be reasonable that there were so many that following up on each and every threat would be a waste of time.

For instance?

John

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Wow Bh that's all doublespeak. To organize means to bring together, in every dictionary that I have read. You're carrying cynicism to a new level in this.
Oh, I get it now - you mean driving a wedge between labor and corporations /government?

According to Alinsky, the organizer — especially a paid organizer from outside — must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility. Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy. This is necessary to get people to participate. An organizer has to attack apathy and disturb the prevailing patterns of complacent community life where people have simply come to accept a situation. Alinsky would say, "The first step in community organization is community disorganization."

I grabbed this from his wikipedia entry. His last book is an excellent read and highly recommended.

Here's a quick synopsis:
http://vcn.bc.ca/citizens-handbook/rules.html

http://sleepless.blogs.com/george/20...r-dummies.html

I thought it was available online but I couldn't find it.

http://www.amazon.com/Rules-Radicals.../dp/0679721134

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Boreas

For instance?

John

You never saw a threat against Bush during all the anti-war protests?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Here's more vitriol from our lovable left:

Ha, ha.....GOOD STUFF!

Thanks, I think I'll save that.

Dave