The Dukes of Hazzard Dropped by TV Land

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Interesting at this relatively late date the apparently ignorant use of Confederate iconography to make the show look all South-y, in spite of the S&B notorious association with overtly racist attitudes (the lost cause mythology notwithstanding).

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Interesting that Andy Griffith and The Waltons didn't need the S&B iconography.

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[icenine]

Quoting yourself is fine Pio...just as long as you do not start referring to yourself in the third person, like that farm animal over in AK

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

In the 1970s you would see that flag in Ohio pretty regularly, on cars and even in dorm room windows. I think maybe American society then did not see it as offensive as today. Maybe as a nation we had our collective blinders on.

Doubtful. I have never met anyone who displayed that flag who wasn't making a racial (racist) statement.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Doubtful. I have never met anyone who displayed that flag who wasn't making a racial (racist) statement.

Actually I can remember way back in the day before the Civil Rights movement heated up, I'm talking maybe early to mid 1950's, when that flag was more of an anti-Yankee thing rather than an anti-black thing.

Of course back then we didn't have no Nigga problems down heah.

Dey knew their place and stayed in it.

It wasn't until them damned outside agitatin Yankees came down here and started putting ideas in their haids is when all this heah trouble started.

[catswiththum]

And a lot of biker gangs, college kids, etc. adopted it/hung it in the frat house to be cool and "outlawish" without stopping to think how much pain that flag represented.

I wish it was not the confederate battle flag and did not stand for what it does, because I rather like the design.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Actually I can remember way back in the day before the Civil Rights movement heated up, I'm talking maybe early to mid 1950's, when that flag was more of an anti-Yankee thing rather than an anti-black thing.

Of course back then we didn't have no Nigga problems down heah.

Dey knew their place and stayed in it.

It wasn't until them damned outside agitatin Yankees came down here and started putting ideas in their haids is when all this heah trouble started.

The two are inextricably intertwined. The anti-Yankee sentiment is rooted in the Lost Cause. The cause that was lost was the Southern Way Of Life. The Southern Way of Life was rooted in white privilege enabled by the enslavement of the blacks.

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms and fished in the lake at Robert E. Lee Memorial Park (which still exists and is still so named).

This southern state was Maryland, a slave state though it stayed in the Union. Harriet Tubman was enslaved in Maryland. John Wilkes Booth was a Marylander. Get away from Baltimore or the DC suburbs (some of them) and you're in the South..... still.

Southern culture and all its iconography is racist to the core.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms

Dude, I'm 68 and was born and raised in Florida.

I've done all those things too.

I never had a black kid in school with me until college.

I never had a conversation with a black person until I was in the Military.

They stayed in their part of town and we stayed in ours.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Dude, I'm 68 and was born and raised in Florida.

I've done all those things too.

I never had a black kid in school with me until college.

I never had a conversation with a black person until I was in the Military.

They stayed in their part of town and we stayed in ours.

Then you should know I'm right.

[Tom Joad]

The great wailing and gnashing of teeth begins.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/dukes-of-ha...037825885.html

Schneider says his residuals from the show “have never been much to write home about,” but he would like the show to persist because of the old-fashioned values it promotes, such as honesty, courage, chivalry, rebelliousness and the like.

Old Fashioned values?

I dunno.

Like I said, I could never make it past the intro.

It looked pretty fucking dumb to me.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The two are inextricably intertwined. The anti-Yankee sentiment is rooted in the Lost Cause. The cause that was lost was the Southern Way Of Life. The Southern Way of Life was rooted in white privilege enabled by the enslavement of the blacks.

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms and fished in the lake at Robert E. Lee Memorial Park (which still exists and is still so named).

This southern state was Maryland, a slave state though it stayed in the Union. Harriet Tubman was enslaved in Maryland. John Wilkes Booth was a Marylander. Get away from Baltimore or the DC suburbs (some of them) and you're in the South..... still.

Southern culture and all its iconography is racist to the core.

In 1860 our country was pretty much racist to the core, although most of the free north and much of the slave south realized slavery was wrong. Even that traitor with all those places currently named after him.

FWIW, Europe was pretty much racist to the core in 1860.