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#1
10-25-2017, 06:49 AM
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Its Official: Clinton Campaign Tied to Russian "Dossier"
The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about Donald Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.
Marc Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington, D.C., firm, to conduct the research. Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community. Elias and his law firm, Seattle-based Perkins Coie, retained the firm in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’ research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary. The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’ research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day. https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...sia-and-trump/ The entire "Russian collusion" angle is nothing more than Clinton / DNC bull shit that started as a way to undermine the Trump campaign. It has now morphed into political cover for the Clintons and the DNC to excuse their "unexpected" loss in the 2016 election. If there was any "Russian collusion", it more likely was between the Clinton State Dept and Russian interests, with the Clinton Foundation as the money-laundering operation. Oh, and remember a week or so ago when Trump was skewered by the media for suggesting that the FBI paid Steele? From the linked article: After the election, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to continue gathering intelligence, but the bureau pulled out of the arrangement after Steele was publicly identified. Last edited by whell; 10-25-2017 at 06:52 AM. 
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#2
10-25-2017, 07:02 AM
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Opposition research is normal in political campaigns and this oppo research started with funding by the GOP. Even Trump and his son both supported going to a room in Trump Tower to have Russians help them directly with oppo research against Hillary. Above all, any oppo research that shows that Trump and his minions are beholden to Russian interests is good oppo research. I, for one, am not particularly happy about having a Russian apparatchik as President.
That said, I'm fine with Hillary or any of her people being investigated/prosecuted for any crimes they committed, as I am with Trump and his minions. Paying for oppo research by an American firm isn't illegal though. Accepting it as a quid pro quo from the Russian government for changing American foreign policy is (as the Trumps did), however.
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As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden. Last edited by finnbow; 10-25-2017 at 07:31 AM.
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#3
10-25-2017, 12:50 PM
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Sure opposition research is "legal". However, for that opposition research to be treated as basis for far flung investigations into supposed "collusion" between the Trump campaign by Congress, the FBI, and a Special Counsel is at best farcical, and at worst its own form of collusion. Over a year of investigations of one sort or another continue, yet the "evidence" is little more than dissipating smoke (with much of that smoke created by the Swamp). Its irrelevant to me who started paying for this and who finished paying for it. This was the product of "the Swamp": the Washington DC insiders whose livelihood depends on access to government money. These individuals may be labeled as Republicans, Democrats, etc., but their party ID is far less relevant than the community of interests that they share in keeping the status quo intact. The third and final issue is that you, and everyone else who so deeply invested themselves in the "Russian collusion angle" and felt "robbed" by the election outcome might need to really come to grips with the following: - The Dems ran a crap candidate and that was the primary reason for Clinton's election loss. - If there was any election tampering, it occurred within the Democratic party nomination process. - The Clintons, once again, are demonstrated to be absolute strangers to to concept of truth, particularly when it might interfere with access to power and money. - WaPo and NYT have much to answer for here.
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#4
10-25-2017, 12:59 PM
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 2. Why doesn't Trump fire Mueller? 3. Why did Jeff Sessions have to recuse himself? 4. When all else fails, there is the Fake media to blame, not sad but really pathetic. Only the guilty look for excuses. 
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#5
10-25-2017, 01:21 PM
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The most important consideration is what within this dossier is true, not who funded it. We'll find out when Mueller's investigation is finished. Meanwhile, Trump is trying to convince his lemmings that any findings/charges that arise from Mueller's investigation are somehow untrue or tainted (and you're buying into his misdirection efforts just as you have faithfully done countless times before).
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As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden. Last edited by finnbow; 10-25-2017 at 01:29 PM.
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#6
10-25-2017, 01:41 PM
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"The idea that the FBI and associates of the Clinton campaign would pay Mr. Steele to investigate the Republican nominee for president in the run-up to the election raises further questions about the FBI's independence from politics, as well as the Obama administration's use of law enforcement and intelligence agencies for political ends," wrote Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. These are questions that now need answers.
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#7
10-25-2017, 01:52 PM
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Ultimately, the FBI did not pay Steele. Communications between the bureau and the former spy were interrupted as Steele’s now-famous dossier became the subject of news stories, congressional inquiries and presidential denials, according to the people familiar with the arrangement, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...what-it-means/ Whether or not he was paid by the FBI, it would have been fully appropriate for the FBI to have paid for a highly-respected intelligence asset with deep connections in Russia to keep looking. Why don't you think it's appropriate to investigate the depths to which Trump was tied up with the Russians? Just because you voted for him? In any event, if you want a better understanding of what's behind conservatives' breathlessness in criticizing the Dems funding of the dossier, read this and you may be able to grasp how/why you're being confused and manipulated. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...uous-nonsense/
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As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden. Last edited by finnbow; 10-25-2017 at 02:06 PM.
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#8
10-25-2017, 08:17 AM
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Another non-issue for the right wingnuts like Whell to whine about. Mommy, mommy! Hillary tried to find the truth about Donny! Wahhhhh!
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10-25-2017, 08:21 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...ing-probe.html
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