Iraq unravels!

[djv8ga]

"and we’re prepared to send a small number of additional American military advisers -- up to 300 -- to assess how we can best train, advise and support Iraqi security forces going forward".

"There’s no military solution inside of Iraq,"

Than WTF is the point?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

"and we’re prepared to send a small number of additional American military advisers -- up to 300 -- to assess how we can best train, advise and support Iraqi security forces going forward".

"There’s no military solution inside of Iraq,"

Than WTF is the point?

It's oil. Always has been all about oil, except for that hard on that the Shrub and his cohort had for Hussein over his celebrating his father's take down by Clinton.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Indeed. Obama was outfoxed by the Iranians.

He sure was. They threw him right out of that briar patch.

Now if he can just evade all the pressure to dive back in....

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

He sure was. They threw him right out of that briar patch.

Now if he can just evade all the pressure to dive back in....

I like the metaphor/imagery.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

"and we’re prepared to send a small number of additional American military advisers -- up to 300 -- to assess how we can best train, advise and support Iraqi security forces going forward".

"There’s no military solution inside of Iraq,"

Than WTF is the point?

To prevent the easy expansion of areas controlled by jihadist elements.

To protect the oil fields.

To protect the embassy.

And to at least indicate that we are doing something.

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

To prevent the easy expansion of areas controlled by jihadist elements.

To protect the oil fields.

To protect the embassy.

And to at least indicate that we are doing something.

I get the first three, but number 4 makes no sense at all. Why does the US have to do something?

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[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Indeed. Obama was outfoxed by the Iranians. At the time it didn't seem like a HUGE deal (not that it was nothing though).

Pete

No more than Reagan was outfoxed by Saddam Hussein. Which, at the time, didn't seem like a HUGE deal.

So everybody on the forum can point a gnarly figure at Obama's stupidity when simply...it's that's what this country has done, repeatedly since the end of WWII. It makes short term deals with the worst murderous, torturer despots/dictators/tyrants it can find (or create at the School of the Americas) to get it's ass out of the latest jam that it created in the first place. And we end up buttfucking ourelves even worse in the same ass we were trying to protect.

And then the country tries to play victim for getting screwed by the latest pack of swarthy opportunists when all we're trying to do is help the poor and oppressed of the world by being the most kind and generous people on earth. This country never does anything geopolitically without a huge battleship anchor chain attached.

[piece-itpete]

Nor should we. I almost agree, but one issue always leads to another and doing nothing is a choice too and will also lead to other issues.

We're screwed

Pete

[Rajoo]

The end of Iraq as it is now?

“This really is a crisis,” said a Western diplomat in Iraq, speaking on the condition of anonymity under ground rules set for a news briefing. “It poses questions as to Iraq’s continued existence as a state. What we’ve got is Sunnis controlling Sunni territory, Shias controlling Shia territory, Kurds controlling Kurdish territory.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z3

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

The end of Iraq as it is now?

“This really is a crisis,” said a Western diplomat in Iraq, speaking on the condition of anonymity under ground rules set for a news briefing. “It poses questions as to Iraq’s continued existence as a state. What we’ve got is Sunnis controlling Sunni territory, Shias controlling Shia territory, Kurds controlling Kurdish territory.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z3

It seems Joe Biden was quite prescient in this regard. He was, of course, criticized heavily by the NeoCons who got it all wrong.