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07-10-2020, 04:04 PM
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Again, I can't find his posts among all the mishmash of hundreds, but Insane recently talked about "when Jesus comes back".
Here's a hint: he ain't comin' back. Every generation of Christians for 2000 years thought that they were living in "end times". Not gonna happen. It's a myth. If you are a devout Christian, so unlike your great leader Trump, then enjoy that culture of kindness and devote more time to social justice rather than to ranting about abortion and gays. I am paraphrasing Pope Francis here.
In the meantime, Humanism has the answers.
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07-10-2020, 05:04 PM
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I say live a good life with compassion and kindness towards all others.
Then it will not matter one way or the other if or when........
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07-10-2020, 05:04 PM
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No point in discussing. All the basic religious questions give rise, from the believers, to closed-minded special pleading. Like, they have to know all the answers going in, or their very souls are in peril.
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07-11-2020, 08:02 AM
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Jesus is one aspect of the Holy Trinity. He is the son of our Father, our Creator.
Christ was temporarily the physical incarnation of God. And he will be manifest again, but not on the planet earth.
The Holy Spirit is also God. The Holy Spirit can and does enter peoples' spiritual hearts at times, even to this day.
"Closed minded special pleading" is the same as 'prayers of petition'. Jesus said 'don't bother doing it'.
God already knows what you're going to ask for, even before you ask.
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07-11-2020, 08:12 AM
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God's not going to ask questions. Your soul won't be saved by passing a 'question and answer' type test.
If anyone has any questions about any religion, I'd be willing to try and answer.
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07-11-2020, 08:16 AM
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Matthew 7:16, "By their fruits----".
If it wasn't for living examples like Jimmy Carter, the elevation of a vicious troll to the presidency would move me that the whole thing is self-serving bullshit.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-lost/613999/y
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07-11-2020, 08:17 AM
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What I meant by 'closed-minded special pleading' is advocacy of a position to which one is committed before any argument and regardless of it.
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07-11-2020, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
What I meant by 'closed-minded special pleading' is advocacy of a position to which one is committed before any argument and regardless of it.
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Oh, that's very different then.
You think you have an open mind, like the enlightenment of Budda?
Have you 'sat Zen' ?
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07-11-2020, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pio1980
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By their fruits, they will be known.
But not saved.
For all I known, Ghandi could go to Hell, and John Wayne Gacy could go to Heaven.
It ain't up to me to judge anyone in any definitive way. There are certain people I'd like to avoid during my life, however. I make 'judgement call' decisions. .
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07-11-2020, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
Oh, that's very different then.
You think you have an open mind, like the enlightenment of Budda?
Have you 'sat Zen' ?
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No and no.
Do you believe that compromising your beliefs would put you more at risk of eternal damnation?
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