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06-29-2018, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
So, Trump said "fake news" was the enemy of the people. I think its pretty crass of you to:
- make this shooting political when its not, and;
- conflate the victims of the Capital Gazette shooting as purveyors of fake news at a time like this.
Pretty sad.
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Here is one example of what Trump has said. Seems to put the lie to what you are asserting but then it's no surprise considering your track record here, Mike.
ps This is a textbook example of a 'strawman' argument, btw.
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The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
2:48 PM - Feb 17, 2017
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06-29-2018, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Here is one example of what Trump has said. Seems to put the lie to what you are asserting but then it's no surprise considering your track record here, Mike.
ps This is a textbook example of a 'strawman' argument, btw.
Donald J. Trump
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The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
2:48 PM - Feb 17, 2017
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It "put the lie to nothing". And yes, you create a straw man argument when you do what you just did: pull the quote above and use it out of context. Your suggesting that quote is the Prez's universal view of all media, every day 24/7. That quote is best viewed in context of what was happening on 2/17/2018, when he was calling reports on those networks of of his aides' contact with Russia "fake news."
You may also be suggesting, as others have, that quote from 4.5 months ago should be color anything that may have occurred with yesterday's shooting. If that's the case, at least the Reuter's editor apologized.
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06-30-2018, 07:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
So, Trump said "fake news" was the enemy of the people. I think its pretty crass of you to:
- make this shooting political when its not, and;
- conflate the victims of the Capital Gazette shooting as purveyors of fake news at a time like this.
Pretty sad.
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I did neither, nor did I make an assertion of causation. All I said was that Trump (and you as a Trump cultist/sycophant/apologist) should be pleased by the death of such frequently-vilified "enemies of the people," just as Americans were pleased by the death of Osama bin Laden. Trump has vilified the free press as much or more than he has vilified any other real enemy of the American people from OBL to the Taliban to ISIS to Hezbollah (to Russia, obviously). No matter how hard you try to excuse Trump's behavior, it is simply true that he has vilified the free press like no other enemy. Own it.
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06-30-2018, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I did neither, nor did I make an assertion of causation. All I said was that Trump (and you as a Trump cultist/sycophant/apologist) should be pleased by the death of such frequently-vilified "enemies of the people," just as Americans were pleased by the death of Osama bin Laden. Trump has vilified the free press as much or more than he has vilified any other real enemy of the American people from OBL to the Taliban to ISIS to Hezbollah (to Russia, obviously). No matter how hard you try to excuse Trump's behavior, it is simply true that he has vilified the free press like no other enemy. Own it.
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You did not make an assertion of causation because you know that you and your ilk are the cause. You are hiding like a rich giggling coward. I have been in the shooter's shoes since you all have purported to like me. The difference between me and the shooter is that I fight with words.
The outrage industry is real. You know it and I have learned it. What I do not understand is what good you want to come of your industrialized persuasion. What do you want? What is your goal?
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07-05-2018, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I did neither, nor did I make an assertion of causation. All I said was that Trump (and you as a Trump cultist/sycophant/apologist) should be pleased by the death of such frequently-vilified "enemies of the people," just as Americans were pleased by the death of Osama bin Laden.
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Finn - keep stuffing the straw in that straw man. I think its the only thing that makes you feel good these days.
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06-29-2018, 09:14 AM
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Whell’s favorite purveyor of fake news, InsHannity, denies he blamed Maxine Waters for the shooting, after blaming her multiple times, on air.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/29/medi...ent/index.html
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06-29-2018, 11:24 AM
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Donny’s target isn’t the fake news media (Faux, Limblow, Breitfart), it’s the real news outlets, like this one, which report the facts, which he so hates.
Your post is so typical of you, Whell. Try to paint others as the dishonest ones, while being utterly dishonest yourself. You’re the lowest of the low.
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06-29-2018, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
Donny’s target isn’t the fake news media (Faux, Limblow, Breitfart), it’s the real news outlets, like this one, which report the facts, which he so hates.
Your post is so typical of you, Whell. Try to paint others as the dishonest ones, while being utterly dishonest yourself. You’re the lowest of the low.
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So, you're focusing not on what Trump actually said, but what you wish/hope to infer from what he said. This allows you to build yourself a nice straw man that you can play with. Got it.
And you call me dishonest and "the lowest of the low".
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06-29-2018, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
So, you're focusing not on what Trump actually said, but what you wish/hope to infer from what he said.
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Was actually focusing on your (and your fellow Trumpies’) gullibility, and willingness to outright lie for your Dear Leader, but it went right over your head.
Donny has called out the real news media, on multiple occasions, for telling the truth. They’re “the enemy of the American people”. You swallow this filth whole, without blinking. You’re such a fool.
Trump Named The World’s No. 1 Oppressor Of Press Freedom: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b003133ecc3439 Sad.
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06-29-2018, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
Was actually focusing on your (and your fellow Trumpies’) gullibility, and willingness to outright lie for your Dear Leader, but it went right over your head.
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Yup, your type of "lump everyone into a pile" stereotypical logic would go right over a thinking person's head.
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