Obama's One Term Failure

[BlueStreak]

"Birtherpalooza"......What, are they going to dress up in their tricorner hats and pantaloons then slug it out in the mosh pit?

Jesus, do these people need to get a life...............

Dave

[merrylander]

By the waay JBS Bush only won a single election he was anointed the first time by SCOTUS.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

My point exactly, he was supposed to be a great uniter, and healer of racism. I can't remember this country ever being so divided, just look at the horrible hatred displayed on this forum. Racism is also worse than it was 4 years ago, a lot worse.

And all quite predictable given his community organizing background. Obama is more naive than nefarious IMHO; however, his associates both formerly and within the administration are certain of their poltical goals and will use any means to achieve them.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by bhunter

And all quite predictable given his community organizing background. Obama is more naive than nefarious IMHO; however, his associates both formerly and within the administration are certain of their poltical goals and will use any means to achieve them.

Care to be more specific about these goals, and what means have been used to achieve them?

Regards,

D-Ray

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Might it just be the Hard Right reacting to having a black man as their President?

That assertion can always be made and is just about impossible to disprove, but OTOH, it might also be the case that they disagree with his policies. Surely we've seen other presidents that were fervently hated and disliked by significant proportions of the populace. There's that correlation and causality problem rearing its head.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Care to be more specific about these goals, and what means have been used to achieve them?

Regards,

D-Ray

Second on the question.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by bhunter

That assertion can always be made and is just about impossible to disprove, but OTOH, it might also be the case that they disagree with his policies. Surely we've seen other presidents that were fervently hated and disliked by significant proportions of the populace. There's that correlation and causality problem rearing its head.

As I've mentioned, I believe that people disagree with Obama for non discriminatory reasons. OTOH, the manner in which some of the opposition - even to the point of questioning his legitimacy to hold office, as it relates to his African heritage - demonstrates that race is a factor in the way he is perceived.

Regards,

D-Ray

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

.... Racism is also worse than it was 4 years ago, a lot worse.

Originally Posted by bhunter

That assertion can always be made and is just about impossible to disprove, but OTOH, it might also be the case that they disagree with his policies. Surely we've seen other presidents that were fervently hated and disliked by significant proportions of the populace. There's that correlation and causality problem rearing its head.

My rhetorical question was in response to TD's post. If racism is indeed worse than it was 4 years ago (his assertion, not mine), where exactly is it worse? In that the historical focal point of racism has been among rural whites in the South (i.e., the current GOP base), am I really out of line in saying that if indeed racism has gotten worse, isn't it possible that this increase is happening where it historically has always been? I doubt it's in Portland or Boulder.

[Rex E.]

[d-ray657]

Rex, it appears that we have succeeded in drawing you fully over to the dark side.

Regards,

D-Ray