|
|
We appreciate your help
in keeping this site going.
|
|
09-24-2010, 10:04 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 20,496
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
The low paying jobs I had as a young man were filled with beer and drugs. The better, higher paying places - weren't.
|
So, maybe...... a raise?
John
|
09-24-2010, 10:26 AM
|
|
Area Man
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,407
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Are you trying to say it wouldn't be their fault?
Yes, this is what I'm saying. Evryone knows it Republicans that like to play with death rays and what-not.
The low paying jobs I had as a young man were filled with beer and drugs. The better, higher paying places - weren't.
Kinda true.
Brock Yates mentions in one of his books that workers in a Chrysler plant in Youngstown liked to fool around, and were seen slapping trim on one handed, behind their backs, etc...
I don't recall there ever being a Chrysler plant in Y'town. Some small company bought the license to build Avantis there after AMC went claws up back in the '70s, or maybe you're thinking of the GM plant in Lordstown?
And my bud that worked in the Twinsburg stamping plant has some great stories about the drugs drinking drawing straws to see who was staying till closing time to clock out etc...
This is where my Dad retired from. And he had similar stories. Amazing that place lasted as long as it did, from the stories he told.
My dad worked a job in NYC. The HVAC guys on the roof had written right into their contract that they could have one beer with lunch. An enterprising local started selling these giant cans of beer to them.
My brother used to work for a German company. The Plant Manager would buy the maintenance crew a couple cases of beer on friday at the end of the day, then sit in the shop and drink with them.
By the end of the job the roof was littered with them
All that said piss tests are unfair to working men and I'll tell you why - an office guy and a warehouse guy hits a j at a weekend party.
Two weeks later, who's at risk of getting fired? The piss test is mandatory for a workplace accident. What's the chances of the office guy having a reportable accident vs the warehouse guy?
There is no way that it's a factor two weeks later. But the warehouse guy gets fired because he smushed a finger. And no workers comp!
I would agree, Pete. Except; What are the chances of the office guy screwing up so bad he gets people killed? I know, it seems unfair, but I think there is a difference in the risks.
A swab test reads back 2-4 days and is much more fair to the warehouse worker.
True.
[/soapbox]
Pete
|
Have a swell weekend!
Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
|
09-24-2010, 09:44 AM
|
|
Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of the burning river
Posts: 21,098
|
|
You simply have more to lose.
That doesn't matter to everyone though.
Pete
__________________
“How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.”
|
09-24-2010, 10:35 AM
|
|
Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of the burning river
Posts: 21,098
|
|
Clarification please John?
Blue, I agree about the danger, but I'm talking 2 weeks after the fact.
Pete
__________________
“How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.”
|
09-24-2010, 10:48 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 20,496
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Clarification please John?
|
THC rarely persists in the urine for more than a few days. The exception being chronic users who occasionally show traces for several weeks. The clear implication here is that positive THC results several weeks after consumption is an indication of an habitual chronic user of the chronic.
John
|
09-24-2010, 10:50 AM
|
|
Area Man
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,407
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Clarification please John?
Blue, I agree about the danger, but I'm talking 2 weeks after the fact.
Pete
|
True.
Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
|
09-24-2010, 11:00 AM
|
|
Loyal Opposition
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Johnson County, Kansas
Posts: 14,401
|
|
I can't help but enjoy sitting back here and seeing some of our usual lefties taking on the authoritarian position and one of our dependable righties standing up for the working stiffs.
It seems like on thing we can agree on is that some guys partying at lunchtime doesn't have anything to do with the financial support to the automakers during the economic crisis. The only causal link would be that without the federal intervention, there might not have been a job there that some people could chose to abuse.
Regards,
D-Ray
__________________
Then I'll get on my knees and pray,
We won't get fooled again; Don't get fooled again
|
09-24-2010, 11:34 AM
|
|
Area Man
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,407
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
I can't help but enjoy sitting back here and seeing some of our usual lefties taking on the authoritarian position and one of our dependable righties standing up for the working stiffs.
It seems like on thing we can agree on is that some guys partying at lunchtime doesn't have anything to do with the financial support to the automakers during the economic crisis. The only causal link would be that without the federal intervention, there might not have been a job there that some people could chose to abuse.
Regards,
D-Ray
|
Excellent point, counselor. But, this is how it will be spun---"You tax dollars are being given to a bunch of lazy, dope smoking, loungeabouts." I'm sure by the time I get to work, Hannity and Beck will have availed the entire world of how a handfull of idiots in a parking lot in Michigan are bringing down the entire of Western Civilization, crapping on the flag and destroying Christianity so the queers can pervert our children and bring an end to the American family as we know it.
Oh, and of course...It's all Obamas fault.
Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
Last edited by BlueStreak; 09-25-2010 at 10:14 AM.
|
09-25-2010, 10:13 AM
|
|
Area Man
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,407
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
"Excellent point, counselor. But, this is how it will be spun---"You tax dollars are being given to a bunch of lazy, dope smoking, loungeabouts." I'm sure by the time I get to work, Hannity and Beck will have availed the entire world of how a handfull of idiots in a parking lot in Michigan are bringing down the entire of Western Civilization, crapping on the flag and destroying Christianity so the queers can pervert our children and bring an end to the American family as we know it.
Oh, and of course...It's all Obamas fault.
Dave"
|
Anybody watch Fox last night?
Turns out I was right. Again.
Fifteen jackasses in Detroit are the bane of western civilization.
Everyone who works for a bailed out automaker is a lazy, dope smoking drunk.................
The entire industry, the UAW, the Jeep Cherokee and the Obama administration called into question because of a handful of idiots, by Stuart Varney. When Sean "Eddie Munster" Hannity came on afterwards it got even worse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPLK...eature=related
Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
Last edited by BlueStreak; 09-25-2010 at 10:16 AM.
|
09-24-2010, 10:55 AM
|
|
Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of the burning river
Posts: 21,098
|
|
I see John, but it was also my understanding that it varies greatly depneding on percentage of body fat.
Why not the swab test? Because the evil employers don't want workers comp claims?
Pet
__________________
“How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.”
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:42 AM.
|