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07-21-2010, 12:09 PM
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Dave,
The Constitution requires that the person holding the office of president be a native born citizen. That has been what the birthers have been trying to make a big stink about. The facts have drained any shred of credibility that the birther's theory had.
Obama has always been an American citizen, a natural born American citizen - there is no question about either of those issues (except that Liddy was stupid enough to not know the difference - although it was Matthews asking the leading question - I think Matthews was just baiting him.)
Depending on the Kenyan laws at the time of Obama's birth, he might have had dual citizenship because of the citizenship of his father. Because Kenya was still technically a British possession at the time of his birth, he might have been born with British citizenship instead of Kenyan citizenship. In any event, his birth to a Kanyan national would have been a sufficient reason for Kenya to keep records of his birth to a Kenyan, because of the potential for dual citizenship.
Regards,
D-Ray
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07-21-2010, 12:11 PM
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Good question.
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D-Ray
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07-21-2010, 12:32 PM
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Last night it was 86, and today my head hurts.
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07-21-2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I am skepitical of the foreign born thing. But Obama has obviously spared no expense on making his (recorded) past disappear. Why?
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Really? We seem to know an awful lot about his past for it to have been hidden so well.
And what's to say that the other side hasn't been lying, fabricating or at least embellishing the negative points to serve an agenda. Do you really think that only goes one way?
Oh, that's right, they're squeaky clean God-fearing Republicans in the true Washingtonian tradition; "Father, I cannot tell a lie." Silly me. There I go questioning the unshakeably pristine again.
Dave
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07-21-2010, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I am skepitical of the foreign born thing. But Obama has obviously spared no expense on making his (recorded) past disappear. Why?
Pete
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Because it's an unwarranted invasion of his privacy and that of his family. The facts of Obama's birth are well established and verified. That this nonsense persists is a reflection on the utter cynicism and total dishonesty of Obama's political enemies and the incomprehensible credulity* of some Americans.
John
*That's a polite way of saying mind-boggling stupidity.
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07-21-2010, 01:47 PM
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Try to find anything on him! It's like his past pretty well vaporized.
Pete
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07-21-2010, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Try to find anything on him! It's like his past pretty well vaporized.
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As I said, Pete, the facts of his birth are well known and available to anyone.
As to his past in general, have you personally tried to research it or are you just going on the basis of what the Birthers are claiming? What exactly do you want to know? What, specifically, is missing? Or is it simply that nobody has been able to come up with any dirt on him?
You know, like desertion in time of war or like torturing pledges at Yale or like blowing up frogs with M-80s or like being addicted to cocaine and alcohol and getting DUIs.
John
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07-21-2010, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Try to find anything on him! It's like his past pretty well vaporized.
Pete
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Face it Pete, Jughaid's been vetted...and you're a racist!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews
Chas
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07-21-2010, 02:22 PM
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How about known opinions for the editor of the Harvard Review and a constitutional professor.
I like 'oh yeah, I met Ayers, bumbed into him when I took a walk one day'
Pete
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07-21-2010, 02:26 PM
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Hah! How quickly we forget
Throw him under the bus!
Pete
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