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Old 06-19-2020, 11:54 AM
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Won't speak for DQ, but generally speaking it's WAG, the kind the lets one feel better about oneself.
What's WAG?
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Old 06-19-2020, 11:58 AM
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The country failed after the civil war to redistribute wealth from those who benefited from or were former slave owners. Just freeing them and leaving adrift was just plain wrong.

Sherman attempted to fulfill this to a degree with the forty acres and a mule. Was reversed and there we have it.
Living with the results to this day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_acres_and_a_mule

The act of helping all would address the Chinese builders of the railroads, Native Americans and all other used and then abandoned after the need for them was gone.

This country is full of families and companies who stole and continue to steal the wealth of the nation to this day. I'm just saying much like the first modern democracy did when silver was discovered in Athens.
Did they let a few get rich?
NO!
They used it for the better good of all, in the building of a navy to protect their democracy. No, here the finding of a resource in the USA will make a company and families rich. Not distributed as a benefit for the citizenry. Oil gas gold timber the list is long of the robbing of the country's wealth.


Trust me be glad right now it is equality at the center of the argument. By ignoring the suffering or just making little of it will not make it go away. Rather increase the solution's pain once it gets to a point where it is beyond cool heads deciding the answers.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:00 PM
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What's WAG?
The definition I go with is idle, indiscreet chatter.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:10 PM
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It sounds like you don't think modern democrats should be held accountable for what Democrats did 160 years ago. It begs the question, then: Why would you be in favor of the ones today paying reparations?
I don't recall saying I was in favor of paying reparations. While some still reap tangible benefits from slavery, while others have inherited the harm of it, I think we'd have much more of a unified and happy society if all on the bottom were better-cared-for, with investments and a robust safety net. Capital must be for everyone in a healthy capitalist economy.

The redistribution program outlined on the wealth-to-scale presentation is mainly good for getting an appreciation of what sort of concentration now exists, and the scale of possible alternatives. I would favor some different investments from their sample program. One line item would be big endowments on the state and local level to replace, for example, property tax funding of schools.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:13 PM
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What's WAG?
Usual expansion is 'wild ass guess.' Means an estimate even more poorly-based than usual.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:13 PM
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One line item would be big endowments on the state and local level to replace, for example, property tax funding of schools.
Or in increase in the marginal tax rate on the extremely wealthy?
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:14 PM
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What's WAG?
White American Guilt
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:15 PM
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The definition I go with is idle, indiscreet chatter.
That would be IIC.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:23 PM
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That would be IIC.
Not according to Webster.
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:24 PM
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I don't recall saying I was in favor of paying reparations...
Well, your direct reply (first in line) to the OP's post about reparations in a thread titled Reparations began thus:
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Redistribute the ridiculously huge fortunes.
Pretty sure most would see this as being in favor. If not, what were you talking about?
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