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02-26-2014, 04:29 PM
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We were talking about the United States Constitution. As you have finally acknowledged, the documents you posted did not become part of the Constitution. The first ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America make up the Bill of Rights and are the law of the land. They are identified in the Constitution as Amendments.
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02-26-2014, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Samm
No actually after going back and looking it is what I remembered after all.
The Original Bill of Rights - Text Version
Here is the complete text of the original twelve amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
Article I
After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand persons.
Article II
No law varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.
Article III
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Article IV
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Article V
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Article VI
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Article VII
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Article VIII
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Article IX
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Article X
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Article XI
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Article XII
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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Now lets talk about credibility. You identified the above as the original twelve amendments to the Constitution. Very clearly, the first two articles posted did not become amendments to the Constitution. You did not identify them as proposals, and they clearly were not all amendments. Backtracking does nothing to add to credibility.
Now, I was talking about a bloggers credibility, and you chose to make it about my credibility. In so doing, you damaged your own. You come in swinging for the fences and you are more likely to strike out.
Regards,
D-Ray
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02-26-2014, 05:13 PM
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Now, I was talking about a bloggers credibility, and you chose to make it about my credibility. In so doing, you damaged your own. You come in swinging for the fences and you are more likely to strike out.
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Fastball on the outside corner from D-Ray and Samm is frozen! CALLED Strike Three!
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02-26-2014, 05:18 PM
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Looked like a sinker right up the middle to me but what do I know, I can't stand baseball.
How're you liking those cans Zeke?
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02-26-2014, 07:37 PM
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Vetoed by Brewer, as it should be. This kind of legislation was a waste of taxpayers money and a misstep by the ultra conservative and frankly juvenile wing of the Republican party. The traditional wing of the GOP seems to have had an epiphany albeit at the urging of the Chamberpot of Commerce .
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02-27-2014, 03:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
Now lets talk about credibility. You identified the above as the original twelve amendments to the Constitution. Very clearly, the first two articles posted did not become amendments to the Constitution. You did not identify them as proposals, and they clearly were not all amendments. Backtracking does nothing to add to credibility.
Now, I was talking about a bloggers credibility, and you chose to make it about my credibility. In so doing, you damaged your own. You come in swinging for the fences and you are more likely to strike out.
Regards,
D-Ray
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I provided the link that shows the original transcripts. Do with it what you want makes no difference to me either way.
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02-27-2014, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Fastball on the outside corner from D-Ray and Samm is frozen! CALLED Strike Three!
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So you claim that the original Bill of Rights transcript doesn't exist even though I have posted it. You aren't very bright are you zeke?
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02-27-2014, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Tell us a bit about your education.
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Did you stop learning when you left school?
It's not very becoming to think you know everything since you were afforded a good education. In fact I think you're very intelligent to understand people learn much more over there life than in a structured school of their youth.
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02-27-2014, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Samm
Yawn. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Why do progressives hate education?
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7
Did you stop learning when you left school?
It's not very becoming to think you know everything since you were afforded a good education. In fact I think you're very intelligent to understand people learn much more over there life than in a structured school of their youth.
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I was responding to this comment.
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02-27-2014, 08:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samm
I provided the link that shows the original transcripts. Do with it what you want makes no difference to me either way.
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So you are going to continue to insist that proposals that never made it into the Constitution are still amendments to the Constitution? And that mighty swing was a home run, even though it made contact with only air. You seem to equate becoming educated with being misinformed. Tell me - is the Equal Rights Amendment part of the Constitution?
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D-Ray
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