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01-24-2013, 12:48 PM
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So the guy in the hood is aiming a gun at you, and you're going to say "time out, I need to get my gun out of the safe."
Or you are going to leave a loaded weapon where it is readily available to you, or to a toddler.
And while you reach for the weapon instead of the sky, the guy who has the gun trained on you is going to fire before you even get close to the weapon.
Or you're going to be sitting there ready to deal with any intruders, and you get him before he pulls his gun.
Which of those scenarios is more realistic?
Regards,
D-Ray
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01-24-2013, 03:30 PM
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Loyal Opposition
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
So the guy in the hood is aiming a gun at you, and you're going to say "time out, I need to get my gun out of the safe."
Or you are going to leave a loaded weapon where it is readily available to you, or to a toddler.
And while you reach for the weapon instead of the sky, the guy who has the gun trained on you is going to fire before you even get close to the weapon.
Or you're going to be sitting there ready to deal with any intruders, and you get him before he pulls his gun.
Which of those scenarios is more realistic?
Regards,
D-Ray
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crickets?
Regards,
D-Ray
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01-24-2013, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
crickets?
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D-Ray
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Indeed...maybe they have old soup cans with pebbles in them, strung on fishing line throughout their castles? and AK47's under their pillows .
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01-24-2013, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
So the guy in the hood is aiming a gun at you, and you're going to say "time out, I need to get my gun out of the safe."
Or you are going to leave a loaded weapon where it is readily available to you, or to a toddler.
And while you reach for the weapon instead of the sky, the guy who has the gun trained on you is going to fire before you even get close to the weapon.
Or you're going to be sitting there ready to deal with any intruders, and you get him before he pulls his gun.
Which of those scenarios is more realistic?
Regards,
D-Ray
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For me, the scenario is that I have a loaded weapon where it is available to me, but not to a toddler. My weapon is hidden, where a toddler (or most anyone, for that matter) would never know there's even a storage compartment, much less a gun. Furthermore, if a toddler were to somehow get a hold of my gun, they do not have the physical strength to operate the action.
Further, your scenario starts with the threat standing in front of me pointing a gun. How did he get in my house without me knowing it? I've got an alarm system with intrusion and motion sensors. I've also got a dog that will alert on any unusual noises.
How about this scenario- Bad guy breaks the glass on the front door. You wake up and call 911. Cops get on their horse. You retreat to a closet while talking to the dispatcher. Bad guy finds you and puts a bullet through your head as you cower in a fetal position begging for your life.
I'd rather go down reaching for a gun.
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01-24-2013, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Some would see the implied intimidation of gun ownership trumping that of free speech. I don't, having free speech with a right to privacy included is what made our country strong all these years.
Was it not in general mostly overall peaceful protest swaying public sentiments that ended the Vietnam War? Do we really want armed mobs in the streets upset at the government? Like in other countries? Plus does anyone deep in their hearts really believe a few with small arms stand a chance against our Government. Especially after watching Nova last night on PBS about the "Rise of the Drones" .... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/militar...he-drones.html
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There are valuable lessons some folks could stand to learn from Ghandi and King. They just refuse to because they're "True American Patriots" that don't take lessons from no skinny, foreign vegetarians and they certainly aint gonna take no advice from no dang ni**er..........And, NO racism has nothing to do with that!
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Dave
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01-24-2013, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy
For me, the scenario is that I have a loaded weapon where it is available to me, but not to a toddler. My weapon is hidden, where a toddler (or most anyone, for that matter) would never know there's even a storage compartment, much less a gun. Furthermore, if a toddler were to somehow get a hold of my gun, they do not have the physical strength to operate the action.
Further, your scenario starts with the threat standing in front of me pointing a gun. How did he get in my house without me knowing it? I've got an alarm system with intrusion and motion sensors. I've also got a dog that will alert on any unusual noises.
How about this scenario- Bad guy breaks the glass on the front door. You wake up and call 911. Cops get on their horse. You retreat to a closet while talking to the dispatcher. Bad guy finds you and puts a bullet through your head as you cower in a fetal position begging for your life.
I'd rather go down reaching for a gun.
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How about THIS scenario;
Regards,
Dave
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01-24-2013, 05:47 PM
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...and in an ironic twist, the 2nd amendment is about the only one the ACLU won't touch with a 10 foot pole.
Marc
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01-24-2013, 05:54 PM
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AKA Sister Mary JJ
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Upper East Tennessee
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
So the guy in the hood is aiming a gun at you, and you're going to say "time out, I need to get my gun out of the safe."
Or you are going to leave a loaded weapon where it is readily available to you, or to a toddler.
And while you reach for the weapon instead of the sky, the guy who has the gun trained on you is going to fire before you even get close to the weapon.
Or you're going to be sitting there ready to deal with any intruders, and you get him before he pulls his gun.
Which of those scenarios is more realistic?
Regards,
D-Ray
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Come on Don, you're better than that.
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01-24-2013, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mpholland
...and in an ironic twist, the 2nd amendment is about the only one the ACLU won't touch with a 10 foot pole.
Marc
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Those darned ACLUnatics can read, that's the problem! Well regulated milit......nevermind.
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01-24-2013, 06:03 PM
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Come on Don, you're better than that.
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I'm not. Do you feel lucky?.... Granted, the guy in the hoodie isn't pointing a .44 magnum Smith & Wesson revolver at you, asking if you can count. or yelling at a chair.
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