Political Forums  

Go Back   Political Forums > Politics
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #381  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:14 AM
barbara's Avatar
barbara barbara is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,172
The ACA worked well in the states that chose to expand Medicaid.
Reply With Quote
  #382  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:18 AM
Pio1980's Avatar
Pio1980 Pio1980 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Bamastan
Posts: 11,060
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroJunk View Post
Whether it is popular or not it is crashing and burning.

On the present course there will be no insurers left in a couple of years.

Or, the rates will be crippling to the middle class, actually they already are.
Mainly due to partisan sabotage.
__________________
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
Reply With Quote
  #383  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:18 AM
nailer's Avatar
nailer nailer is offline
Rational Anarchist
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: DFW
Posts: 7,315
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
Much of this is due to GOP subterfuge of Obamacare and the resulting uncertainty in the insurance market. In any event, the GOP now owns health care.
The ACA is trying to insure people who couldn't afford insurance through the private sector in a drastically overpriced healthcare system and is a fools errand I'd say. If the bill is 11K pages (read recently here), imagine what the implementing rules, regulations and guidelines must be like. It's a mess.

Nobody owns healthcare.
__________________
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
Reply With Quote
  #384  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:45 AM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is offline
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,907
Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer View Post
Nobody owns healthcare.
After ~60 votes to repeal and replace and featuring it as the core of their campaigns for the past 7 years in which they won majorities in the House and Senate and the Presidency, fixing the health care system indeed belongs to the GOP (even more so since Dem's have been locked out of the debate). Their cynicism, hypocrisy, incompetence and lack of compassion is on full display.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
  #385  
Old 06-20-2017, 11:31 AM
nailer's Avatar
nailer nailer is offline
Rational Anarchist
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: DFW
Posts: 7,315
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
After ~60 votes to repeal and replace and featuring it as the core of their campaigns for the past 7 years in which they won majorities in the House and Senate and the Presidency, fixing the health care system indeed belongs to the GOP (even more so since Dem's have been locked out of the debate). Their cynicism, hypocrisy, incompetence and lack of compassion is on full display.
Whatever.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the GOP isn't interested in fixing the healthcare system. When it comes to Congress, Tip O'Neil said "all politics is local" and many a Republican governor and state legislator are in no rush to see ACA dismantled.
__________________
"We have met the enemy and he is us."

Last edited by nailer; 06-20-2017 at 11:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #386  
Old 06-20-2017, 11:37 AM
ZeroJunk ZeroJunk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,899
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pio1980 View Post
Mainly due to partisan sabotage.
What a bunch of BS.

An example would be nice.
Reply With Quote
  #387  
Old 06-20-2017, 12:18 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is offline
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,907
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroJunk View Post
An example would be nice.
You're welcome.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/u...-care-act.html
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
  #388  
Old 06-20-2017, 04:32 PM
ZeroJunk ZeroJunk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,899
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
That's interesting. Although plugging holes in the hopelessly flawed ACA with more taxpayer money after the middle class got bent over and corn holed up front is not so evil in my book.

What they need to do is just go to universal healthcare and be done with it.

But, I suspect the big insurance companies are too powerful for that.
Reply With Quote
  #389  
Old 06-20-2017, 05:13 PM
Pio1980's Avatar
Pio1980 Pio1980 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Bamastan
Posts: 11,060
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroJunk View Post
That's interesting. Although plugging holes in the hopelessly flawed ACA with more taxpayer money after the middle class got bent over and corn holed up front is not so evil in my book.

What they need to do is just go to universal healthcare and be done with it.

But, I suspect the big insurance companies are too powerful for that.
On that, we can agree.
I'd Iike to ​think that I served a country that cares for it's own.
__________________
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
Reply With Quote
  #390  
Old 06-21-2017, 04:44 PM
MrPots MrPots is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,554
The republicans will scrap the ACA and replace it with their own plans, but I guarendamnteeya health care costs will continue to go through the roof. It's the republican master race genocide plan...only well to do healthy people get to liv. Not as obvious as Hitlers plan but every bit as effective.
__________________
It occurs to me that republicans seem to view black, Mexican, LGBT, Muslims and poor people in the same light as Nazi Germans once viewed Jewish people. We must be vigilant that it goes no further.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:08 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.