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06-20-2017, 10:14 AM
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The ACA worked well in the states that chose to expand Medicaid.
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06-20-2017, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
Whether it is popular or not it is crashing and burning.
On the present course there will be no insurers left in a couple of years.
Or, the rates will be crippling to the middle class, actually they already are.
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Mainly due to partisan sabotage.
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06-20-2017, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Much of this is due to GOP subterfuge of Obamacare and the resulting uncertainty in the insurance market. In any event, the GOP now owns health care.
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The ACA is trying to insure people who couldn't afford insurance through the private sector in a drastically overpriced healthcare system and is a fools errand I'd say. If the bill is 11K pages (read recently here), imagine what the implementing rules, regulations and guidelines must be like. It's a mess.
Nobody owns healthcare.
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06-20-2017, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Nobody owns healthcare.
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After ~60 votes to repeal and replace and featuring it as the core of their campaigns for the past 7 years in which they won majorities in the House and Senate and the Presidency, fixing the health care system indeed belongs to the GOP (even more so since Dem's have been locked out of the debate). Their cynicism, hypocrisy, incompetence and lack of compassion is on full display.
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06-20-2017, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
After ~60 votes to repeal and replace and featuring it as the core of their campaigns for the past 7 years in which they won majorities in the House and Senate and the Presidency, fixing the health care system indeed belongs to the GOP (even more so since Dem's have been locked out of the debate). Their cynicism, hypocrisy, incompetence and lack of compassion is on full display.
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Whatever.
FWIW, I'm pretty sure the GOP isn't interested in fixing the healthcare system. When it comes to Congress, Tip O'Neil said "all politics is local" and many a Republican governor and state legislator are in no rush to see ACA dismantled.
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Last edited by nailer; 06-20-2017 at 11:48 AM.
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06-20-2017, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pio1980
Mainly due to partisan sabotage.
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What a bunch of BS.
An example would be nice.
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06-20-2017, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
An example would be nice.
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You're welcome.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/u...-care-act.html
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06-20-2017, 04:32 PM
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That's interesting. Although plugging holes in the hopelessly flawed ACA with more taxpayer money after the middle class got bent over and corn holed up front is not so evil in my book.
What they need to do is just go to universal healthcare and be done with it.
But, I suspect the big insurance companies are too powerful for that.
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06-20-2017, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
That's interesting. Although plugging holes in the hopelessly flawed ACA with more taxpayer money after the middle class got bent over and corn holed up front is not so evil in my book.
What they need to do is just go to universal healthcare and be done with it.
But, I suspect the big insurance companies are too powerful for that.
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On that, we can agree.
I'd Iike to think that I served a country that cares for it's own.
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06-21-2017, 04:44 PM
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The republicans will scrap the ACA and replace it with their own plans, but I guarendamnteeya health care costs will continue to go through the roof. It's the republican master race genocide plan...only well to do healthy people get to liv. Not as obvious as Hitlers plan but every bit as effective.
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