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08-15-2022, 11:57 AM
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Liz Cheney for President?
Do you think Liz Cheney will run for president if/when she loses her current position?
Do you think she would have a chance at the presidency?
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08-15-2022, 12:28 PM
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Yes if she got the Republican nomination, but she won't. If she ran third party she'd get some Republican votes, and some independent votes that would have gone Democratic. Don't know which side she'd hurt more. But if both major party candidates had real high negatives (say, Trump vs Biden) she might actually win that way.
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08-15-2022, 01:08 PM
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She may indeed run in an effort to get on the debate stage with Trump and/or other MAGA candidates and rip them a new asshole for their dishonesty and criminality, but she has no chance in today's GOP where dishonesty and criminality seem to be essential qualities in a candidate.
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08-15-2022, 03:50 PM
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You both make good points.
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08-15-2022, 05:27 PM
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I don't think she has a chance in 2024, but perhaps later. I would hope that she challenges Trump for the nomination in 2024 though, it can only help her since she will gain nation wide recognition, always a plus for an ambitious politician.
Should be very interesting if she picks Trump apart citing misdeeds from all of the ongoing investigations. Like why did you steal government documents? Why did you incite your supporters from the January 6th rally? Wonder though how the GOP will respond if no one else challenges Trump for the nomination.
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08-16-2022, 07:15 AM
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If TFG were free to run again there is zero chance he'd appear in a debate with Liz Cheney for that very reason. As a third party candidate I think hurt the GOP more. I think she'd get more Independents and sane Repubs that can't bring themselves to vote Democrat than Democrat crossover voters. This could work against tRump or any trump-like candidate
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08-16-2022, 07:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickeyM
If TFG were free to run again there is zero chance he'd appear in a debate with Liz Cheney for that very reason.
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If Trump were a typical political animal, I'd agree with you. He's not, though, and I think he'd salivate at a chance to be on a debate stage with her. Whether it would be to his detriment or not, one can only speculate.
It used to be that men going after women in a debate didn't play well on TV: I'm thinking Rick Lazio for example. I think a lot has changed in our society between 2000 and today.
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08-16-2022, 07:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
If Trump were a typical political animal, I'd agree with you. He's not, though, and I think he'd salivate at a chance to be on a debate stage with her. Whether it would be to his detriment or not, one can only speculate.
It used to be that men going after women in a debate didn't play well on TV: I'm thinking Rick Lazio for example. I think a lot has changed in our society between 2000 and today.
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Indeed. Cruelty and misogyny are now considered desirable traits in today's GOP.
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08-16-2022, 02:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
If Trump were a typical political animal, I'd agree with you. He's not, though, and I think he'd salivate at a chance to be on a debate stage with her. Whether it would be to his detriment or not, one can only speculate.
It used to be that men going after women in a debate didn't play well on TV: I'm thinking Rick Lazio for example. I think a lot has changed in our society between 2000 and today.
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He would love to be able to go after Cheney the way he went after Hillary in their first debate. Anyone hosting such a debate would take steps to curtail this. Also I think Cheney would be ready for Donny as predictable as he is. Also I think she would not be as concerned as Hillary with being polite.
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08-16-2022, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
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He would love to be able to go after Cheney the way he went after Hillary in their first debate. Anyone hosting such a debate would take steps to curtail this. Also I think Cheney would be ready for Donny as predictable as he is. Also I think she would not be as concerned as Hillary with being polite.
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Guess we"ll never know. Looks like Cheney lost BIG tonight.
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