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03-21-2012, 07:52 AM
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I thought the laws already protected one in one's own dwelling. That story has nothing to do with a vigilante on patrol. The conduct there is outrageous and sickening, but not relevant.
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03-21-2012, 08:59 AM
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I'm sure everyone knows a "wanna be cop" at one time or another. This sounds like another case of someone untrained wanting power and a gun to enforce it. He had a cell phone, called the police that should of been the end of it for him.
Hopefully something good will come out of the terrible terrible crime. Shame it had to come to this before this guy came under the microscope of public attention.
Once he gets locked up his dance card will be full waiting to be punched. Real popular guy just wait and see.
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03-21-2012, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
I thought the laws already protected one in one's own dwelling. That story has nothing to do with a vigilante on patrol. The conduct there is outrageous and sickening, but not relevant.
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Seems like a lot of states used to have a duty to retreat, even within one's own home.
Probably most of the Castle Doctrine and Stand your Ground laws have grown from laws which required the duty to retreat.
And before we sentence the "vigilante" to life and 50, let's see what the courts decide...unless you have more faith in the media getting their facts straight than I do.
After all, I wasn't there, were you?
Chas
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03-21-2012, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
I'm sure everyone knows a "wanna be cop" at one time or another. This sounds like another case of someone untrained wanting power and a gun to enforce it. He had a cell phone, called the police that should of been the end of it for him.
Hopefully something good will come out of the terrible terrible crime. Shame it had to come to this before this guy came under the microscope of public attention.
Once he gets locked up his dance card will be full waiting to be punched. Real popular guy just wait and see.
Barney
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Some of the worst wannabee cops I've ever run into WERE cops.
Chas
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03-21-2012, 11:13 AM
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And before we sentence the "vigilante" to life and 50, let's see what the courts decide...
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I am reasonably certain that, if there is ever an alternative to killing a man, the courts will decided it should have been taken.
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03-21-2012, 01:22 PM
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I'm sure everyone knows a "wanna be cop" at one time or another.
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Very prescient, Barney:
A report in the Orlando Sentinel today has more information about Zimmerman. The 28-year-old was born in Virginia, attended Seminole State College, and aspired to become a law-enforcement officer.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...uiRS_blog.html
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03-21-2012, 03:20 PM
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That is just sickening. But, what does it have to do with Floridas stupid law? He busted in and physically attacked. The old man would have been legally justified anyways.
Dave
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03-21-2012, 03:27 PM
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Did Zimmerman have a concealed weapon permit?
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03-21-2012, 04:06 PM
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That is just sickening. But, what does it have to do with Floridas stupid law? He busted in and physically attacked. The old man would have been legally justified anyways.
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I don't think that there are any Castle Doctrine laws that say that you can go around provoking confrontations and then just shoot someone because they threaten you after the fact.
Also, it's been close to a month and Zimmerman? has yet to be charged. I say let's let the grand jury do their work, for all we know this may be a legal shooting. If not, lock him up...I don't have a problem with that.
I'm also smelling a big political rat as the DOJ is interjecting themselves into this issue. Normally, they don't become involved in situations like this.
And I'm not too hep on trial by media.
Chas
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03-21-2012, 04:25 PM
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This looks to me like the media getting involved only shed light on a cover up.
Being one who has been a subject of profiling and can contest to the hassles it can cause. But I could of cut my hair and shaved stopped driving a van, but others of color are not so lucky.
Barney
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