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09-04-2013, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I thought you were against the bombing?
Bob, I think the left's coming online (most you'alls sure weren't a coupla days ago!) because failing in Congress would be the biggest failure of Obama's Presidency.
Just a guess
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I think you're dreaming but don't let me stop you, Pete. See bolded...If the House kills the response to Assad using Sarin gas on civilians? The blowback will hurt the tea besodden in the upcoming elections.
Like I said before, once the evidence is in, let the President make his case for military action before congress. Now that the evidence is here, I support the CINCs decision with that qualifier. I don't believe that in this case he has the power to sidestep the War Powers Act. The Senate commitee has approved their version and will vote next week. My sweaty crystal ball say they will approve it, bipartisanly (sic). The (fun) House will also approve, somehow, I think, maybe.
That added side benefit here is that the Teabagger caucus has to shit or get off the pot. Already, Rubio has killed any chance of a credible run for the White House in '16. Paul buried himself further, (if that's even possible).
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09-04-2013, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Do we really think the Christians, Shias and Alawites want the radical islamists hanging around?
The Shias hate the Alawites because the Alawites are the ruling class while also being in the minority. The strongman tactics in Syria grew up around keeping the minority in power. I don't think anyone there would mourn that group getting its card punched.
That might make the soup a bit less murky.
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As things stand now Christians and Shias have a larger fear of the Jihadists and are therefore giving support to Assad. The Sunni Jihadists are waging a wide ranging war against all the Shias both in Iraq and in Syria.
Right now they are bombing Shia controlled Iraq back to the stone age. Their objective is to establish a caliphate, free of all Shias, Christians Alawites and other infidels.
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09-04-2013, 04:01 PM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Maybe we'll 'accidently' hit them
Pete
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I like that one Pete.
I burst out laughing and my wife looks at me with a question sign....Is
he getting crazy?
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09-04-2013, 04:09 PM
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All of this soupy mess of Sunni vs. Shia vs. Alawites vs. Christians vs. Jihadist this, that and the other whackjob that's hated the rest of them and they all hate us and the Jews for the last 800 years is precisely why we should just forget the whole damn thing.
If we let them suck us into their lunacy we are no better than they are.
Dave
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09-04-2013, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
I like that one Pete.
I burst out laughing and my wife looks at me with a question sign....Is
he getting crazy?
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I get the same from mine, Don.
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09-04-2013, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
All of this soupy mess of Sunni vs. Shia vs. Alawites vs. Christians vs. Jihadist this, that and the other whackjob that's hated the rest of them and they all hate us and the Jews for the last 800 years is precisely why we should just forget the whole damn thing.
If we let them suck us into their lunacy we are no better than they are.
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Couldn't agree more, and we are definitely in the majority here. I think if we do anything at all, let's parachute drop guns, grenades, and bullets to both sides.
BTW, did you guys see Obama on the TV today? He says he didn't draw a red line, the world did. I have to admit that he is entertaining at times.
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09-04-2013, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Twodogs
Couldn't agree more, and we are definitely in the majority here. I think if we do anything at all, let's parachute drop guns, grenades, and bullets to both sides.
BTW, did you guys see Obama on the TV today? He says he didn't draw a red line, the world did. I have to admit that he is entertaining at times.
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Look here, Jay. There's some truth to what he says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_...oisonous_Gases
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09-04-2013, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Twodogs
BTW, did you guys see Obama on the TV today? He says he didn't draw a red line, the world did. I have to admit that he is entertaining at times.
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Particularly when he's right.
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09-04-2013, 08:59 PM
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Anyone else catch Putin's response when pressed last night? Seems the ol' KGB dude may see his way yet to U.N. sanctions with teeth.
I'm still against this rush to judgement of the cruise missle type. I would much prefer having Bashir Assad hauled up in front of the World Court at The Hague on war crimes charges.
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09-05-2013, 10:40 AM
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Don, LOL!
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
All of this soupy mess of Sunni vs. Shia vs. Alawites vs. Christians vs. Jihadist this, that and the other whackjob that's hated the rest of them and they all hate us and the Jews for the last 800 years is precisely why we should just forget the whole damn thing.
If we let them suck us into their lunacy we are no better than they are.
Dave
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"Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews."
Pete
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