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05-04-2022, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
At the writing of the Constitution abortions were preformed routinely up to the "Quickening".
""Quickening is when a pregnant person starts to feel their baby's movement in their uterus (womb). It feels like flutters, bubbles or tiny pulses. Quickening happens around 16 to 20 weeks in pregnancy, but some people may feel it sooner or later.""
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10297561/
""During the colonial period, the legality of abortion varied from colony to colony and reflected the attitude of the European country which controlled the specific colony. In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. ""
So why would they think it need to be clarified any further?
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Clarified for them and no one else. But, that will be an exercise in futility because they're willfully ignorant and determined to have their way. A man whose thought process begins and ends at what he thinks his God demands he do will never listen to reason or stop his irrational behavior. Clarify all you want, they are not listening.
See what I mean, Barney?
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05-05-2022, 05:31 AM
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If men not women were the ones who were "with child" abortion would be legal.
As a result of this soon to be ruling, a increase in underprivileged non white births. Speeding up the decline in white majority in this country.
Something this bigoted racist cult running the show must of overlooked.....
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05-05-2022, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
The religious right might push the anti-abortion agenda but I suspect there is a significant number of people who are anti and are not religious.
In the absolute abortion is murder. Many people look at the absolute and make adjustments with time...15 weeks...23 weeks. WTF.
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In the absolute is birth control usurping God's will?
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05-05-2022, 08:39 AM
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Well this didn't take long...
Newsmax Genius Accuses Ketanji Brown Jackson of Leaking the SCOTUS Draft
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Detective Stinchfield, dipsh*t-in-charge, identified his “first suspect” for the unprecedented leak: Ketanji Brown Jackson, who won’t join the high court until the summer.
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Since when do these slime ever need proof or facts
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05-05-2022, 10:22 AM
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They don't. Intent is to demonize a Democrat, a black or a woman even better. Their Social Media followers will pick this up and repeat it over and over until it becomes fact.
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05-05-2022, 06:15 PM
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WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a public appeal for help, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has asked if “anyone has seen” a briefcase he accidentally left at a bar late last week.
Speaking to reporters, Kavanaugh said that, after work last Friday, he dropped into a bar near the Supreme Court “to have a few pops,” and inadvertently forgot to take his briefcase when he left.
Kavanaugh, who appeared to have some difficulty reconstructing the time line of the evening, said that he arrived at the bar “around seven” and that it was “ten, maybe ten-thirty when they asked me to leave.”
The jurist was evasive when asked to describe the contents of his briefcase, saying only that it was “work papers and junk” that he would “really like to have back.”
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05-06-2022, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oerets
At the writing of the Constitution abortions were preformed routinely up to the "Quickening".
""Quickening is when a pregnant person starts to feel their baby's movement in their uterus (womb). It feels like flutters, bubbles or tiny pulses. Quickening happens around 16 to 20 weeks in pregnancy, but some people may feel it sooner or later.""
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10297561/
""During the colonial period, the legality of abortion varied from colony to colony and reflected the attitude of the European country which controlled the specific colony. In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. ""
So why would they think it need to be clarified any further?
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I agree. I think Roe v Wade threw a monkey wrench into that whole thing and that's probably why it's hopefully finally being overturned. Let each state pass their own laws, based on the sensibilities of the citizens of each state. It's not really a federal issue, until the other two branches of the FedGov pass a bill and the executive branch signs it into law.
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05-06-2022, 09:11 AM
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Every single one of these conservative justices swore, under oath, that this was "settled law", that they would not mess with.
What should be their punishment for lying under oath should they join Alito's horrific opinion? Does the DOJ have an option to prosecute them? Impeachment should be the solution, but that's politically untenable right now, given the extreme far-right tilt of the once "Grand" old party.
Court packing? Maybe, after a Blue Wave in the midterms...
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05-06-2022, 10:02 AM
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Of Course the Constitution Has Nothing to Say About Abortion
There is no mention of the procedure in a four-thousand-word document crafted by fifty-five men in 1787. This seems to be a surprise to Samuel Alito.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily...e-constitution
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05-06-2022, 10:30 AM
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There's no mention of it in the Christian Bible either, whether it's right or wrong. It's all a matter of interpretation.
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