Elon Musk started a price war that Tesla can't win

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Human

A fact seemingly not noticed by Elon Musk, who has gone out of his way to piss off wealthy liberals.

I have no delusions that many if not most company CEOs are conservatives, but most have the common sense to keep it somewhat low key.

Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.

[Human]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.

Yes, conservative ≠ MAGA wingnut.

[BigElCat]

There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.

I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.

[Human]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.

I call bullshit on you having knowledge of future battery technology that is not common knowledge.

[Dondilion]

The legacy manufacturers cannot sell their cars and trucks.Truck prices were $60k to $90k MSRP. WTF.

For instance Dodge Rams are piling up.
Said manufacturers also were reluctant to build affordable cars. Their desire is to build trucks which have hefty profit margins. However, the economics of the consumer cannot support the prices.
Elon is correct. Prices have to fall


In the meantime Trump and the Biden administration are making big noise about Chinese over capacity and in view of Nafta do not want to see Chinese production in Mexico.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by Human

I call bullshit on you having knowledge of future battery technology that is not common knowledge.

The DHS has a quad copter drone the size of a mini van. It looks like the 'landing craft' things in the old Star Trek TV series. Lots of people have seen it.

5' diameter blades spinning 40,000 rpm. Current consumer technology couldn't lift a payload that size, except it's own battery pack.

(talk to yourself on the internet much).

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The DHS has a quad copter drone the size of a mini van. It looks like the 'landing craft' things in the old Star Trek TV series. Lots of people have seen it.

5' diameter blades spinning 40,000 rpm. Current consumer technology couldn't lift a payload that size, except it's own battery pack.

(talk to yourself on the internet much).

Rotor blades can't go 40,000 rpm. They loose thrust efficiency as the they go supersonic. They would also make continuous sonic booms that would incapacitate unprotected persons in a wide area. Of course, I suppose that's the main goal, eh? Here's wikipedia on an early experiment with a supersonic propeller aircraft. Note that the propeller was supersonic, but the plane wasn't.... Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Rotor blades can't go 40,000 rpm. They loose thrust efficiency as the they go supersonic. They would also make continuous sonic booms that would incapacitate unprotected persons in a wide area. Of course, I suppose that's the main goal, eh? Here's wikipedia on an early experiment with a supersonic propeller aircraft. Note that the propeller was supersonic, but the plane wasn't.... Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech

My stated diameter was a questimation, they where at least 4' in diameter. I could not see the actual blades, only a halo at the circumference, like maybe each had a rim or hoop around it. They were not silent, but surprisingly quiet.

It made noise just like a normal RC quadcopter, except the sound had more 'energy' to it. No down draft came off of it that I noticed. It was about 20 to 25 feet off the ground, about 70 feet from where I was sitting.

My assumption that it belong to the DHS is also just that; an assumption based on conjecture and hearsay (over-heard from other people talking about their sightings of the drone). And a published report that the DHS had been conducting flood plane mapping for insurance purposes in our area.

[init4fun]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.

I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.

Hi BigElCat,

If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....


https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6233

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by init4fun

Hi BigElCat,

If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....


https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6233

All I know is what I saw.

The batteries would lighter in weight (or mass), with the capacity to discharge more current than anything I know about. Like a helium capacitor, or maybe a 'flux capacitor' with a 'delitium crystal', that never melts down.

Science Fiction is going to hit the market.